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October 31, 2007 Blog Roundup and Open Thread

by: jsw

Wed Oct 31, 2007 at 19:20:41 PM PDT

Today's Blog Roundup is on the flip. I'm experiencing some ennui this evening, so it's just a link dump. Let me know what I missed in comments, or just use this as an open thread.

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October 30, 2007 Blog Roundup and Open Thread

by: jsw

Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 17:58:39 PM PDT

Today's Blog Roundup is on the flip. Let me know what I missed in comments, or just use this as an open thread.

To subscribe by email, click here and do what comes naturally.

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Quick Thoughts on Rent Control and Property Rights Extremism

by: Robert Cruickshank

Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 18:49:49 PM PDT

Amendment V. "...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

In 1791 the United States Congress, comprised of property owners, passed the above as part of the Bill of Rights, designed to strictly limit the powers of the new federal government. Over the years this has sufficed for most as a balance between individual property rights and the need to subordinate those rights, on occasion, to the public good. Combined with the Fourteenth Amendment this provision ensures that any taking of property will be compensated fairly.

However, in the 200+ years that have elapsed, a more extreme view has emerged. To believe that the Constitution is an insufficient guarantee is to take a radical view of property rights. It assumes that not only does one have a right to own property, but to derive the maximum amount of income possible from that property no matter what method is used to attain it. That extremist view was not held by those who authored the Constitution, or by courts that have for 200 years been interpreting that Constitution, or by those who have been making law under that Constitution.

And if one has that extremist view of property rights - that private ownership of property is not or should not be subject to any controls or limits of regulations - THEN you will see eminent domain in the same category as rent control, as environmental laws, etc.

Here in California this view is promoted by, among others, the Howard Jarvis Association. And that's why they use eminent domain as a wedge to push unpopular and unfair ideas like ending rent control - not just because they enjoy Trojan Horses (though they surely do) but also because it fits their extremist logic.

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The Return of Prop 90!

by: Brian Leubitz

Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 11:03:12 AM PDT

Well, it looks like it's going to happen. The Right wingers aren't ones to give up just because they got rebuffed once.  They're at it again, and, if you believe them, they've got the signatures to get on the ballot:

Today, Californians for Property Rights Protection announced that the campaign has collected well over 700,000 signatures needed to qualify the California Property Owners and Farmland Protection Act for the June 2008 ballot. In order to qualify the eminent domain reform ballot measure, supporters must collect 694,354 valid signatures by November 26, 2007. The campaign is on track to submit more than 1 million signatures before this deadline. Link here

More on this proposition over the flip and why this is, yet again, a trojan horse.

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Tex Mex

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Fri Sep 14, 2007 at 14:12:57 PM PDT

Read about it here

The scoop: Last year, Sacramento forced the doors closed on K Street's Tex Mex restaurant.  While the city gave millions of dollars in incentives to an upscale chain restaurant just blocks away, Tex Mex's owners were never offered the opportunity to stay and improve their business.

UPDATE by Brian: Please use the open threads (which we will try to post more regularly) for one line links.  Here is the current open thread.  This thread has been closed.

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Eminent domain debate continuation

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 11:45:55 AM PDT

I think we overloaded the term limits thread, it won't load on my computer anymore. Please continue it here, starting with wu ming's comments
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California Property Owners and Farmland Protection Act

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 18:36:46 PM PDT

Government Acquisition, Regulation of Private Property. Constitutional Amendment

Bars state and local governments from condemning or damaging private property for private uses. Prohibits rent control and similar measures. Prohibits deference to government in property rights cases. Defines "just compensation." Requires an award of attorneys fees and costs if a property owner obtains a judgment for more than the amount offered by the government. Requires government to offer to original owner of condemned property the right to repurchase property at condemned price when property is put to substantially different use than was publicly stated. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local government: Increased costs to many governments due to the measure's restrictions. The fiscal effect on most governments probably would not be significant.

For the Legislative Analysis: http://lao.ca.gov/ba...

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ACA 8 amended

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 16:55:07 PM PDT

As Brian put up in the quickie, ACA 8 has been amended. The amendment protects churches and other houses of worship from eminent domain abuse, it is as follows:

The State or a local government shall not acquire by eminent domain for conveyance to a private person any real property that is used exclusively by the owner for religious worship, if that property is exempt from property taxation pursuant to subdivision...

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ACA 8 in Assembly Appropriations Committee on Aug. 30

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 21:03:37 PM PDT

Upon the call of Chairman Leno, the Assembly Appropriations Committee will meet tomorrow, and ACA 8 will be one of the proposals taken up. I have no doubt it will pass the Appropriations Committee, but I expect Vice Chairman Mimi Walters and Doug La Malfa to tear the proponents apart
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Eminent Domain Initiative On Its Deathbed?

by: Brian Leubitz

Sat Aug 25, 2007 at 07:47:13 AM PDT

Before election time rolls around? Aww, that's unfortunate, because Prop 90 was so much fun for folks of all ages!

Anyway, the SacBee found a few teensy-weensy errors (h/t to the CA Majority Report ) in the draft of the initiative.  Well, ok, really big errors. Namely the initiative, sponsored in part by the Farm Bureau, would make it darn tough to start new water storage projects.

In short, the CPOFPA would make it illegal to use eminent domain to acquire land and water to develop public water projects. That's right: the Farm Bureau -- a major proponent of water storage and supply -- is bankrolling an initiative that would effectively make it impossible to develop any new water projects in the state (visit the website of the coalition promoting Assemblyman De La Torre's honest eminent domain reforms for a fact sheet on the issue). It's hard to imagine they would do this intentionally, so one has to assume it is the mother of all drafting errors.

GOP Senator Dave Cogdill told the Bee: "As I read it, there's certainly reason for concern for what it means for the future of water projects in California, especially as it pertains to new water storage." (CA Majority Report )

I tell you what, the "eminent domain" people, who keep trying to slip other provisions into their initiatives, are pretty much the bad news bears of initiative reform. Every possible mistake happens.  But, we all make mistakes, right term limit reformers?

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Reggie Jackson in Monterey

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Tue Aug 21, 2007 at 17:53:47 PM PDT

The Monterey County Herald Article in PDF format:

http://calpropertyri...

To sum up, Reggie Jackson (baseball legend) has proposed a hotel development. He has a year to try purchasing the land, and his agreement with the city allows eminent domain to be used as a last resort.

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Son of Prop 90?

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 12:39:17 PM PDT

Prop 90 description:

Bars state/local governments from condemning or damaging private property to promote other private projects, uses. Limits government’s authority to adopt certain land use, housing, consumer, environmental, workplace laws/regulations. Fiscal Impact: Increased annual government costs to pay property owners for losses to their property associated with new laws and rules, and for property acquisitions. These costs are unknown, but potentially significant on a statewide basis.

vs.

New real reform description:

Bars state and local governments from condemning or damaging private property for private uses. Prohibits rent control and similar measures. Prohibits deference to government in property rights cases. Defines “just compensation.” Requires an award of attorneys fees and costs if a property owner obtains a judgment for more than the amount offered by the government. Requires government to offer to original owner of condemned property the right to repurchase property at condemned price when property is put to substantially different use than was publicly stated. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local government: Increased costs to many governments due to the measure’s restrictions. The fiscal effect on most governments probably would not be significant.

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Blow-by-blow Response to De La Torre

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 17:31:01 PM PDT

Hector De La Torre on the Democratic radio address and my blow-by-blow response:

Hello, this is Assemblymember Hector De La Torre.

HI

How would you feel if your city government seized your land for no other reason than to build a strip mall or a Wal-Mart Supercenter?

CHEATED. ABUSED. EXPLOITED. INFURIATED. SOLD OUT BY GOVERNMENT WHO'S SUPPOSED TO PROTECT MY PROPERTY RIGHTS. I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH

If you’re like most Californians, you’d be understandably upset.

NO S**T

In 2005, the United States Supreme Court issued a decision known as Kelo versus New London, Connecticut.

I'M WELL AWARE

Some argued that this case greatly expanded the ability of state governments to purchase private property from one person for the private gain of another person or corporation.

IT DID GREATLY EXPAND IT. STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, BUT I THINK YOU LEAVING OUT LOCAL WAS UNINTENTIONAL

Many feared the Kelo decision was overly broad and would unduly endanger private property rights. To protect homes and small businesses, I authored Assembly Constitutional Amendment 8, the Eminent Domain Reform Act.

IT IS OVERLY BROAD. TELL ME ABOUT ACA 8

The Eminent Domain Reform Act prohibits State or local governments from using eminent domain to acquire an owner-occupied home for transfer to another private party. This is unprecedented.

OKAY, BETTER THAN NOTHING AT ALL. BUT WHAT ABOUT RENTAL PROPERTIES? APARTMENTS? BUSINESSES? FARMS? CHURCHES?

TAKING AWAY THE ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD ISN'T AS BAD AS TAKING AWAY WHAT PAYS FOR THE ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD. WHY? IF THEY TAKE AWAY THE LATTER, YOU'LL LIKELY ALSO LOSE THE ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD

This constitutional amendment also would prohibit government from using eminent domain to acquire property where a small business is located to transfer to another private party

SOUNDS GOOD! EXCEPT THIS DEFINES SMALL BUSINESS AS <25 EMPLOYEES, WHILE CALIFORNIA LAW DEFINES SMALL BUSINESS AS <100 EMPLOYEES

unless there is a comprehensive plan to eliminate blight.

LOOPHOLE ALERT! BLIGHT, OF COURSE, BEING WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT SAYS IT IS. CITIES CAN DECLARE A NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE BLIGHTED (UNDER EXTREMELY VAGUE STANDARDS IN THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE) AND THEN TAKE ANY PROPERTY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO CONSTRUCT A SHOPPING MALL, LUXURY HOMES, ETC... THIS LOOPHOLE COMPLETELY NULLS THE PREVIOUS POINT YOU MADE

But before eminent domain is allowed a small business owner must have the opportunity to be a part of the new development.

THE OPPORTUNITY BEING WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT WANTS, AND THE GOVERNMENT MAY WAIVE IT

If a small business does move, it will receive the fair market value of the previous location, moving expenses, expenses to reestablish the business at a new location, and compensation for the increased cost of rent or mortgage payments for up to three years.

BETTER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE NOW. HOWEVER, THIS MISSES THE ENTIRE POINT: IF THEY OWN THE PROPERTY, THE GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE SOMEONE TO MOVE FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S PRIVATE GAIN.

In short, this is legislation grounded in a simple concept: the government should not have the ability to abuse its eminent domain privileges, and during the rare times when eminent domain is appropriate, business owners will be fairly compensated.

NO, THIS IS LEGISLATION GROUNDED IN PROTECTING THE STATUS QUO WHILE MAKING PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT REFORM HAS TAKEN PLACE. THIS IS WORSE THAN NOTHING.

This philosophy has guided legislative Democrats for years.

IF THERE'S ANY ISSUE WHERE I QUESTION MY ALLEGIANCE TO THE DEMOCRATS, IT'S THIS! THE LEGISLATIVE DEMOCRATS HAVE REPEATEDLY TOLD ME, ON THIS ISSUE, THAT THERE'S FROSTING ON MY CUPCAKE WHEN THERE ISN'T. NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO SELL ME PAPER DISGUISED AS FROSTING

Last year, the State Legislature listened to voters and passed several new laws to protect peoples’ homes.

LIKE WHAT?

We made it harder for government to proclaim an area “blighted.”

OH, YOU MEAN SB 1206? BULLS**T. AGAIN, YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME THE PAPER IS FROSTING. THOSE STANDARDS IN THE BILL WERE VAGUE, AND MOST WERE ALREADY CURRENT LAW. LOOK AT ALL THE TIMES IT SAYS "MAY" INSTEAD OF "MUST" AND LOOK AT ALL THE UNDEFINED TERMS.

Raising the requirements for an area to be declared blighted helps protect property owners.

AND SB 1206 DIDN'T DO THAT!

An area has to be declared blighted before a redevelopment agency can use eminent domain.

THAT WAS ALREADY THE CASE! THE PROBLEM IS THAT BLIGHT IS SO VAGUELY DEFINED THAT IT IS WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT SAYS IT IS. SB 1206 DID NEXT TO NOTHING

Raising the requirements for an area to be declared blighted helps protect property owners.

AND SB 1206 DIDN'T DO THAT

To keep the process out in the open, we increased state oversight by involving the Attorney General, the Department of Finance and the Department of Housing and Community Development to protect your rights as a property owner.

DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THAT. BUT GIVEN THE TRACK RECORD IN CLAIMING TO PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS WHEN YOU'RE NOT, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE THIS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT

Now that these bills have been signed into law, California has clearly taken steps to protect the rights of homeowners and other property owners.

THE ONLY BILL WITH ANY TEETH THAT CAN BE REFERRED TO HERE WAS SB 1650. SB 53, 1206, 1210, AND 1809 WEREN'T EVEN WORTH THE PAPER THEY WERE PRINTED ON

And with your support, the Eminent Domain Reform Act will take those protections even further, into the California state constitution.

NO, I'LL SUPPORT REAL EMINENT DOMAIN REFORM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS BILL, JUST LIKE THOSE OTHER ONES, ISN'T EVEN WORTH THE PAPER IT'S PRINTED ON. I'D RATHER HAVE NOTHING THAN THIS PIECE OF CRAP

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I'm Perplexed re: Eminent Domain Reform

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Sun Jun 10, 2007 at 12:10:48 PM PDT

I am perplexed when it comes to the newest Jarvis initiative on eminent domain reform. http://lao.ca.gov/ba...
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ACA 8 = Prop 78

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Thu May 24, 2007 at 10:27:49 AM PDT

You all remember Prop 78? It was the prescription drug proposition sponsored by the drug companies during Arnold's special election.

You remember what the biggest problem with it was? It was a classic example of the fox pretending it cares about the hen house. The goal of the drug companies was to convince people that real reform took place when it didn't really. They wanted to offset true reform by consumer groups in Prop 79. The very groups over the years defending and benefiting from charging high prices for prescription drugs pretending to now support reform. Pure window dressing!

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Susette KELO Speaks Out on ACA 8

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Wed May 23, 2007 at 16:33:03 PM PDT

Susette Kelo's thoughts on De La Torre's ACA 8 http://calpropertyri...
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Immunizing the Eminent Domain Distraction

by: Brian Leubitz

Tue May 22, 2007 at 07:43:53 AM PDT

Yesterday I put up a Quickie about a eminent domain reform proposal brought to the floor by Asm. Hector De La Torre linking to the "Californians for Eminent Domain Reform" website. I was going to do a whole post, but other things came up and it never happened.  But, this is a good idea, politically.

For some reason, the wingers have themselves all frenzied up over eminent domain and are prepared to spend heavily on it (see Prop 90). But that's not even the worst part, it's that the wingers think that eminent domain is their way to attack a number of other progressive causes (again, see Prop 90).  Follow me over the flippio for some additional background and details of the current proposal...

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EMINENT DOMAIN REFORM WITHOUT STRIPPING LAND USE: FINALLY!

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Sat May 05, 2007 at 17:21:45 PM PDT

Well, I guess the third time is a charm. http://ag.ca.gov/cms...

The first and second time, those circulating an eminent domain initiative failed to remove the provisions undoing land use, environmental regulations, etc...

This time, they have taken out the "damage" provisions. You can look for yourself, none of that in sight

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Prop 90 vs. New Initiative

by: thelibertariandemocrat (VF2005)

Wed Apr 11, 2007 at 17:37:56 PM PDT

You all remember Prop 90, the proposition that would have severely limited eminent domain and the government's ability to do land-use planning, zoning, etc...

Here is the comparison: http://calpropertyri...

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Prop 90 does far more damage than Eminent Domain could ever do

by: Brian Leubitz

Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:14:16 AM PDT

(Also posted at dKos. - promoted by SFBrianCL)

Prop 90, the so-called "Protect Our Homes" Act, aims to curtail the use of eminent domain in the state of California.  The problem is that Prop 90 goes much further than that.  In today's SF Chronicle, Ray King, a Montana columnist rips the initiative to shreds.  Let's go issue by issue on the flip:
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