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The Coming Decision on Prop 8

by: Brian Leubitz

Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 06:55:56 AM PDT

Several possibilities remain for Supreme Court

by Brian Leubitz

We are heading into the last few weeks of the Supreme Court's session, which typically ends in the last few days of June. June 24 is the last calendared day, but it is not uncommon to see the close of the session drift a few days back. With that in mind, a few folks are summarizing what could happen. Howard Mintz has a quick such article in today's SJ Merc.

To summarize, there are basically four different outcomes. From best to worst case scenarios, here is what we are looking at with some help from the office of City Attorney Dennis Herrera:

  • We win on the merits. This is the best case scenario and could possibly end most of the litigation surrounding marriage equality. In short, that would be the U.S. Supreme Court reaching the merits of Proposition 8's constitutionality and affirming the Ninth Circuit decision invalidating California's measure. Any victory on the merits restores marriage equality in California.  But, of course it isn't that simple, there are a couple options within this scenario.
    • Beyond California, the Court could hold that all state bans on same-sex marriage are invalid (i.e., legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide);
    • Separate but unequal: Court could rule that states with civil union and domestic partnership laws must require full recognition for marriage rights for same-sex couples (i.e., legalizing same-sex marriage in several more states, including: Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, and Oregon).  
  • Punting the case: The Supreme Court 'DIGs' the case. In the next scenario, the U.S. Supreme Court dismisses the case, leaving the Ninth Circuit's ruling that Prop 8 is unconstitutional as the final, binding decision.  In lawyer parlance, this outcome is called a "DIG" -- for "Dismissed as Improvidently Granted" -- and it occurs when at least five justices agree that the petition for certiorari (or review) should never have been granted (it takes only four of the nine justices to grant review).  Though DIGs aren't typical, it's notable that Justices Kennedy, Breyer and Sotomajor all questioned in oral arguments whether review should have been granted.  This outcome would apply solely to California.  But it would remove any prospect that a party hostile to marriage equality would challenge whether the ruling applies statewide.
  • Standing: The Supreme Court holds that Prop 8 backers lacked standing. In the next scenario, the U.S. Supreme Court rules that the Prop 8 proponents lacked standing under federal law to appeal the U.S. District Court's decision.  Such a decision would vacate the Ninth Circuit opinion, leaving U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker's ruling that Prop 8 is unconstitutional as the final, binding decision.  Prop 8 is held unconstitutional in this scenario, but parties hostile to marriage equality might seek to litigate over whether the District Court ruling applies statewide.  Already, Prop 8 proponents and some ill-informed pundits have argued that such a ruling on standing should limit the judgment to only the two couples (who are named plaintiffs in the suit), or to the Counties of Alameda and Los Angeles (which are named as defendants in the suit).  Those arguments are wrong, but certain to get litigated if the case is dismissed for standing in this fashion.
  • Losing: Here, a majority of U.S. Supreme Court justices agree to reverse the Ninth Circuit, upholding Proposition 8 as valid under the U.S. Constitution's equal protection guarantees.  This would settle the legal question about Prop 8, though the larger debate about marriage equality in California would likely shift from the legal arena to the political realm.
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Convention Wrap-up

by: Brian Leubitz

Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 08:14:31 AM PDT

DarakaConvention closes out strong

by Brian Leubitz

After the parties and events closed up on Saturday night, some bleary eyed delegates strolled in on Sunday morning to see the completion of the efforts that the various committees and groups worked on over the week.

But first, I want to congratulate all of the new regional directors, especially Hene Kelly who is replacing me as Regional Director of San Francisco and San Mateo. And a hearty congratulations go out to Daraka Larimore-Hall for his election to the position of Secretary of the Party.

After a few more speeches from elected officials, labor and community leaders, and the regional director volunteer of the year awards, the party approved the slate of resolutions without much protest. Perhaps they got little fanfare at the convention, but these were some very impressive resolutions. See the full slate of this year's resolutions here (PDF).

The resolutions included a call for Prop 13 reform, resolutions supporting the heart of CEQA, a moratorium on fracking, and many more. Here's the crucial clause of the fracking resolution.

THEREFORE,*BE*IT*RESOLVED*that the California Democratic Party supports: 1) an immediate moratorium on fracking, with such a moratorium to remain in effect until legislation and regulations  are put in place that repeal the exception in the Safe Drinking Water Act, guarantee public health and safety, mitigate the effects on climate change, protect the environment and allow government access and testing of the chemicals used; 2) full disclosure and testing of all sites; and 3) substitution of conservation and renewable sources of energy where practical;

Of course, the resolution calling for the Supreme Court to overturn prop 8 was close to my heart, and one calling for major reform of the UC and CSU boards and governance structure could have a big impact on an area that is gaining traction.

All in all, while it may not have had the excitement of some of the conventions of the past few years, this year's convention was a big success for the party.  

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Prop 8 Likely to Be Repealed Narrowly; Court to Hear DOMA Today

by: paulhogarth

Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 00:26:07 AM PDT

It is never wise to predict U.S. Supreme Court decisions on oral arguments, or else Obamacare would have been repealed.  Based on the Justices' line of questioning, however, it appears that they will overrule Proposition 8 - but on narrow grounds that will only affect California.  The Justices spent a significant chunk of time on "standing," but they will likely consider the Prop 8 supporters as proper litigants.  But Justices Anthony Kennedy and John Roberts had clear problems with finding a "right" to same-sex marriage that would apply nationwide - and the "nine-state" compromise was widely panned.  I predict they will rule Prop 8 unconstitutional by applying the Romer precedent and sustaining the Ninth Circuit decision, i.e., Prop 8 was unique because it "took away" a right that same-sex couples already had.

Today, the Court will hear oral arguments on the federal Defense of Marriage Act - a case whose outcome should be more favorable.  A state can grant marriage to same-sex couples, but we still don't have equality because DOMA denies them all federal benefits.  I also expect that the standing question in DOMA to be clearer.

Note by Brian: Amy Howe at SCOTUSBlog has a "plain English" review of the DOMA Case. It's worth a read, as it covers some of the standing issues in that case as well as the merits of the case.

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Prop 8 Oral Argument Reactions

by: Brian Leubitz

Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:09:00 AM PDT

Court looks unprepared to make a sweeping decision for marriage equality

by Brian Leubitz

UPDATE: I have updated the post with the complete audio from the oral arguments. I also included some snips that the LA Times posted as well. You can select any of the clips to listen to it directly, or click down to the bottom to listen to the whole argument.

Any decision is still months away, but today's oral argument did give some strong clues that the Court, and Justice Anthony Kennedy particularly, is not ready to make any big decisions one way or another. From Tom Goldstein at SCOTUSBlog:

The bottom line, in my opinion, is that the Court probably will not have the five votes necessary to get to any result at all, and almost certainly will not have five votes to decide the merits of whether Proposition 8 is constitutional.

Several Justices seriously doubt whether the petitioners defending Proposition 8 have "standing" to appeal the district court ruling invalidating the measure.  These likely include not only more liberal members but also the Chief Justice.  If standing is lacking, the Court would vacate the Ninth Circuit's decision.

The Justices seem divided on the constitutionality of Proposition 8 on ideological lines, four to four - i.e., all the members other than Justice Kennedy.  For the more liberal members of the Court, there was no clarity on how broadly they would rule.

Any ruling would likely end up with the 9th Circuit's decision being vacated and Judge Vaughn Walker's District Court decision striking down Prop 8 as being the last word on this case. The practical effect of such a muddled ruling would be marriage equality in California, but the rest of the country having to wait a few more years.

Despite 58% of Americans supporting marriage equality is not enough, the Court has learned to be a bit timid on these dramatic issues. Perhaps there will be a case in a few years that eventually ends marriage discrimination in all 50 states, but it might not be this one. At any rate, the current dramatic upsurge in support for gay rights will eventually make this issue quaint. But for now, perhaps we'll end up with a few more years of the fight.

Lyle Denniston, also at SCOTUSBlog, has a good recap of the argument.

Additional Links:

Curated Audio Explanation from Alliance for Justice

Tom Goldstein, SCOTUSBlog, Getting to five might be difficult

Kate Kendall, Executive Director of National Center for Lesbian Rights

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Field: Marriage Equality Goes Main Stream, Economy Still Glum

by: Brian Leubitz

Fri Mar 01, 2013 at 14:26:47 PM PST

61% of Californians support marriage equality

by Brian Leubitz

In the continuing data trickle from the good folks at the Field poll, the first covers the subject of marriage equality. As we've seen nationally, the numbers continue to shift towards the freedom to marry.

By a nearly two-to-one margin (61% to 32%), California voters approve of allowing same-sex  couples to marry. This represents a complete reversal in views about the issue from 1977, when The Field Poll conducted its first survey on this topic, and is the highest level of support ever measured by the poll. (Field)

No matter what the Supreme Court does on Prop 8, that odious measure is not long for this world. It will either be overturned in the courts or at the ballot before we get a new president.

In today's data, we get the voters take on the status of the economy. In short, people are still gloomy:

Greater than seven in ten voters (72%) currently describe California's economy as being in bad times. In addition, six in ten (61%) describe unemployment as very serious in the state, and just  36% expect job opportunities to improve in the coming year.  While this represents a slight improvement in the extremely bleak assessments of the state's  economy that voters have offered over the past five years, the views of Californians remain gloomy.

In addition, when asked to describe their own financial situation, nearly half (44%) say they are  worse off now than they were last year, while fewer (30%) are better off. This is the sixth  consecutive year in which more voters report being financially worse off than better off. (Field)

Now, the economic indicators show that the economy is slowly improving, but the results are just too modest for the time being. If the sequester can be cleared out in Washington, we should expect to see continued growth. If not, we could see an unfortunate downturn.

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Obama Administration files amicus brief opposing Prop 8

by: Brian Leubitz

Thu Feb 28, 2013 at 14:38:34 PM PST

Upcoming brief expected to argue that marriage equality should be law of the land

by Brian Leubitz

There has been a lot of discussion over the past few days as to whether the president will file a brief at the Supreme Court about Prop 8. The answer, apparently, is yes.

The Obama administration will endorse same-sex marriage today by telling the Supreme Court that California should not be permitted to ban gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

The highly anticipated legal brief was expected later in the day, just hours before the deadline, the Associated Press reported.

UPDATE: Here's the brief, my take coming this evening. You can also find it over the flip.

The underlying argument of the brief is relatively simple. Namely, laws prohibiting members of the LGBT community from doing something, in this case getting married, should be subject to "heightened scrutiny." That is to say, government needs something more than merest rational basis for the discriminatory law. The administration's brief then goes on to say that the purported reasons given by the Prop 8 proponents do not meet that heightened scrutiny.

You've heard all the reasons they came up with why Prop 8 was valid: teh kidz, teh judges, and teh traditions. The government dismisses these with the one bullet that goes to the heart of the issue: California grants all the rights and privileges of marriage to gay and lesbian couples through domestic partnership. So, it can't be merely to protect children. Denying the word "marriage" is simply done for impermissible purposes. Or, in the solicitor general's words:

Private respondents, committed gay and lesbian cou-ples, seek the full benefits, obligations, and social recog-nition conferred by the institution of marriage. California law provides to same-sex couples registered as do-mestic partners all the legal incidents of marriage, but it nonetheless denies them the designation of marriage allowed to their opposite-sex counterparts. Particularly in those circumstances, the exclusion of gay and lesbian couples from marriage does not substantially further any important governmental interest. Proposition 8 thus violates equal protection.

In other briefing news, NFL players Chris Kluwe (Minnesota's punter) and Brendon Ayanbadejo (Ravens linebacker) filed their own brief, available here. Not sure it will carry similar weight to the solicitor general's, but their effort is sincerely appreciated.

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Prop 8 Plaintiffs, SF City Attorney File Briefs in Supreme Court

by: Brian Leubitz

Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 09:46:58 AM PST

Argue that Prop 8 denies equal protection, proponents do not have standing

by Brian Leubitz

A busy day in the Prop 8 case today, as the City of San Francisco filed their brief, and the original plaintiffs filed their reply brief. The links will take you to Scribd to read them.

The Supreme Court asked two questions, one on the merits of the case, the other on whether the Prop 8 proponents have standing to appeal the case. After discussing why they don't think there is standing, both move quickly on to the merits. The arguments are two-fold, that Prop 8 violates due process of the law, and that it is a violation of the equal protection clauses of the fifth and fourteenth amendments.

As the March 26 hearing approaches, I'll dig into all of the briefs and summarize what to watch for at oral argument. You can peruse all of the various filings at AfER's website.  

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Prop 8's fate to be determined at the Supreme Court

by: Brian Leubitz

Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 15:20:33 PM PST

Supreme Court takes on marriage equality, Prop 8 and DOMA

by Brian Leubitz

Mark your calendars for June 2013. That's the close of the current Supreme Court session, and by that time we should have a decision on marriage equality. On Friday, the Court announced that it would hear cases on both Prop 8 and the so-called "Defense of Marriage" Act. But there is a caveat in the Supreme Court's order:

About two decades after the campaign to win the right to marry for same-sex couples began, the Supreme Court on Friday afternoon agreed to consider - but not necessarily to decide - some of the most important constitutional issues at the heart of that national controversy.  Each side gained the opportunity to make sweeping arguments, for or against such marriages.  But the Court left itself the option, at least during the current Term, of not giving real answers, perhaps because it lacks the authority to do so. (ScotuBlog)

With respect to that open question of whether the Court has standing, it is a question that was at the center of much speculation before the 9th Circuit's decision. Ultimately, the Ninth Circuit determined that the proponents of the law, ProtectMarriage.com, had standing to defend it. If the Court decides that it doesn't have standing, Judge Walker's original decision will hold and marriages will resume in California.

Now, as a matter of scheduling, we should have oral argument for both cases early next year. The cases will likely be scheduled for the same day, but that is not definite at this point.

Turning to the merits, well, you can find many reasonable predictions. But the Dean of UC-Irvine Law is both esteemed and usually pretty accurate at this game. His take:

"I believe the court will find that Prop. 8 and (the Defense Of Marriage Act) are unconstitutional," Chemerinsky said. "The court decision will be 5-4 and I predict Justice Kennedy will write it. The court will say that the government has no legitimate interest in denying gays and lesbians the right to marry. ...
"Justice Kennedy wants to write the next Brown v. Board of Education, not the next Plessy v. Ferguson," Chemerinsky said.

Kennedy has actually been pretty good on LGBT rights issues, having written Lawrence v Texas and Romer v Evans, two of the most noteworthy gay rights cases.

For further discussion of possible options on how the Court goes on these cases, check out the Same Sex Marriage Section of ScotusBlog. NYU Law Professor Kenji Yoshino has a particularly interesting take on the three main ways that the Court could strike down Prop 8 without requiring nationwide marriage equality.

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Prop 8 litigation status at the Supreme Court likely determined today. UPDATE:Nope.

by: Brian Leubitz

Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 22:12:29 PM PST

Supreme Court to decide on future of Prop 8 litigation

by Brian Leubitz

It has been over four years since Prop 8 passed in November 2008. Though it would now appear as pro-equality forces are on the march nationally, and could have flipped the 2008 final tally this year, we are still waiting for news from the Supreme Court.

In theory, that should come today. While the court could possibly hold over a final decision, that's the luxury of being the nation's highest court, I suppose. However, the justices were to discuss the case and announce a decision on whether to grant review of the decision today. So, what are we looking at?

If they decline to review the decision, Prop 8 remains dead in California. Marriages would likely begin once the Ninth Circuit lifts the stay and clears the last few procedural hurdles. Unfortunately, due to the narrow decision of the panel, the case only directly impacts California.  However, you would certainly have to think that marriage inequality amendments in other 9th Circuit states will be looked at skeptically until there is a Supreme Court decision.

If they take the case, a decision would likely come in the batch of decisions released in June after oral arguments. The Court also will decide whether to look at the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act.  With DOMA have being ruled unconstitutional in several states, it seems at least better than a 50-50 call that the Court will deal with at least one of the LGBT rights issues.

And, so the waiting continues...

UPDATE: Well, as soon as I post this, it seems that they may be pushing it off. Not official yet, but ScotusBlog has a good track record. Their rumor  is that the Court is determining which marriage equality cases to take, especially with regards to the DOMA cases.


UPDATE: Well, the time has come and gone on Monday now too. It looks like Friday is the next best guess. More from ScotusBlog.

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Um, Can I Take a Mulligan? Prop 8 Supporter Flip-Flops

by: Brian Leubitz

Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 11:05:03 AM PDT

Blankenhorn testified at Prop 8 Trial, Now says we should work for marriage equality

by Brian Leubitz

In many ways, it was actually better for David Blankenhorn to be on the other side. He was something of a comic figure. He testified on behalf of the ProtectMarriage.com crew, and ultimately got so twisted around that his testimony likely did them more harm than good. In fact, he ended up saying that we would be "more American" on the day that we allowed marriage equality.

So it shouldn't be all that shocking that he's decided to write an op-ed in the New York Times calling for an end to the discrimination against same-sex couples. (h/t P8TT) Now, I'm not trying to be too cynical here, but how else was David Blankenhorn going to get an op-ed in the New York Times?

But, I digress, here's a snippet on his change of heart:

But there are more good things under heaven than these beliefs. For me, the most important is the equal dignity of homosexual love. I don't believe that opposite-sex and same-sex relationships are the same, but I do believe, with growing numbers of Americans, that the time for denigrating or stigmatizing same-sex relationships is over. Whatever one's definition of marriage, legally recognizing gay and lesbian couples and their children is a victory for basic fairness.
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And to my deep regret, much of the opposition to gay marriage seems to stem, at least in part, from an underlying anti-gay animus. To me, a Southerner by birth whose formative moral experience was the civil rights movement, this fact is profoundly disturbing.

So, is he saying that he is just now figuring out that much of the opposition to marriage equality is/was animus? Or, was his faith in his position strong enough that he could look past that. Either way, either he's insensitive or kind of slow.

But, there is value in the symbolic import of having somebody who testified in favor of Prop 8 changing their position, for whatever reason. If Blankenhorn can truly persuade a few folks to change their minds too, then perhaps his decades arguing vociferously against marriage equality can be forgiven.

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Prop 8 En Banc Hearing Denied

by: Brian Leubitz

Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 10:08:54 AM PDT

Marriage equality case looks set for the Supreme Court

by Brian Leubitz

Today the 9th Circuit denied the motion for en banc rehearing of the case. The Yes on 8 supporters had sought review from an 11-judge panel, but the denial means that their only recourse at this point is the Supreme Court.

Interestingly, this puts the case on a similar time schedule as the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) case that was just decided at the 1st Circuit. We could potentially see the future of marriage equality firmly established (or severely set back) within the very near future.

You can get all the documents from the Prop 8 case at the 9th Circuit's case page.

Somewhat interestingly, the dissenting judges, O'SCANNLAIN, BYBEE and BEA, went off on the President's statement on marriage equality, suggesting that we should have a "greater conversation" and that blocking the en banc hearing cuts off the conversation.  Judges Hawkins and Reinhardt respond:

We are puzzled by  our dissenting colleagues' unusual reliance on the President's views regarding the Constitution, especially as the President did not discuss the narrow issue that we decided in our opinion. We held only that under the particular circumstances relating to California's Proposition 8, that measure was invalid. In line with the rules governing judicial resolution of constitutional issues, we did not resolve the fundamental question that both sides asked us to: whether the Constitution prohibits the states from banning same-sex marriage. That question may be decided in the near future, but if so, it should be in some other case, at some other time.
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Prop8 Supporters Seek Broader 9th Circuit Review

by: Brian Leubitz

Wed Feb 22, 2012 at 08:34:00 AM PST

Hurry up and wait as anti equality litigation team seeks more attractive ruling to Supreme Court

By Brian Leubitz

Given the proposition eight supporters previous statements that they preferred to go to the Supreme Court as quick as possible, the decision to appeal to Ninth Circuit as a whole probably deserves some explanation. But the big problem for the so-called protect marriage team is that the ruling from the Ninth Circuit three-judge panel is more narrow then they would have expected. It leaves open the possibility that the Supreme Court could actually decline to hear the case. And what they're really looking for is the ability to continue on with their campaign of constitutional amendments against marriage equality.

So, rather than going directly to the Supreme Court, yesterday They decided to appeal the Ninth Circuit 11 judge panel:

ProtectMarriage, the sponsors of Proposition 8, will ask a larger panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to review the marriage dispute ruling instead of going straight to the U.S. Supreme Court, according to a spokeswoman.

The 9th Circuit would have to vote on whether to grant the extra layer of review. If a majority favors it, a larger panel will reconsider the constitutionality of the marriage ban and issue a ruling. Such a reconsideration could delay U.S. Supreme Court review by months or more than a year. (LAT)

After all, what do they really have to lose? With the appeal pending, and the previous decision of the three-judge panel stayed, the prop 8 supporters really only have money to lose. But their supporters have really shown no lack of desire to continue funding the litigation.

As it is, no marriages can go forward while litigation is pending in the 9th circuit. And while they risk the country becoming increasingly accepting of marriage equality, assuming there is no change in the composition of the Supreme Ct., the risk is minimal. So they get to delay the possibility of marriages in California for the better part of another year.

The previous, narrow, decision is just a complicating factor for them as they face the Supreme Court. It sill seems unlikely that the Court will not hear the case, but whatever small chance that is becomes greater with the narrow opinion. If they get a worse decision at the 9th, the case will definitely go to the Supreme Court. And heck, there is always the chance that the 11 judge panel would decide against marriage equality.

So, plan on doing a little more hurrying up and a lot more waiting on the final resolution of the Prop 8 litigation.

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9th Circuit Upholds Judge Walker's Prop 8 Decision

by: Brian Leubitz

Tue Feb 07, 2012 at 14:09:22 PM PST

Court strikes down Prop 8 on narrow equal protection grounds

by Brian Leubitz

It probably isn't the decision that we would like, but it is sure better than the alternative.  In a narrow decision, Judge Reinhardt held Prop 8 unconstitutional as denying equal protection under the law.  However, this decision does not issue a blanked declaration that marriage bans are inherently unconstitutional in their own right.  You can read the full decision over the flip or at this link.

That being said, the 2-1 decision was mostly positive.  Judge Walker's findings of fact, which you can read on a footnote on Page 18 of the decision, were not disputed.  The standard for changing these findings of fact is substantially higher than for the legal conclusions, but the maintenance of those facts is nonetheless important and notable.  And of course, there is the fact that the 9th Circuit ruled that Prop 8 was unconstitutional, which is pretty great.  However, I am guessing that AFER and Boies/Olson would have preferred an answer on the broader question of legality of same-sex marriage bans.  But that was not to be today:

Whether under the Constitution same-sex couples may ever be denied the right to marry, a right that has long been enjoyed by opposite-sex couples, is an important and highly controversial question. We need not and do not answer the broader question in this case.

And so, citizens of other states must wait in line for the time being. Metaphorically, I suppose, because the 9th Circuit also put a stay on the decision, so no marriages will proceed right away.  But the Supreme Court can review this decision in any way they would like to. They could address that broader question if they so decide. Perhaps they'd prefer to rip the band-aid off in one grand gesture, or maybe we'll wait for that.  The Supreme Court won't make its decision on whether to hear the case for a few months, so Court watchers will be left guessing.

All that being said, you can't help but smile when you realize that an appellate court sees the real injustice in this inequality. Check out page 37 and the subsequent pages for a rather heartfelt statement of the importance of marriage in our community.

The designation is important because 'marriage' is the name that society gives to the relationship that matters most between two adults. A rose by any other name may smell as sweet, but to the couple designing to enter into a committed lifelong relationship, a marriage by the name of 'registered domestic partnership' does not.

Furthmore, when Reinhardt gets to his conclusion, it is stark and simple:

Proposition 8 serves no purpose, and has no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians in California, and to officially reclassify their relationships and families as inferior to those of opposite-sex couples.

Reinhardt ultimately wrote the opinion for an audience of 9.  By limiting his opinion, it has a stronger chance of standing up, and possibly even inspiring Justice Kennedy to end marriage discrimination forever.

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Prop 8 Ruling Tomorrow

by: Brian Leubitz

Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:47:35 AM PST

9th Circuit Announces Decision at 10AM tomorrow

by Brian Leubitz

The 9th Circuit has just announced that they will be releasing their opinion in Perry v Brown, otherwise known as the Prop 8 case, tomorrow. The opinion will be posted on their website.  Given that the 9th Circuit will likely be overwhelmed by traffic, we'll get links up to alternate sites as soon as we have them.

LGBT leaders will be gathering at the court in San Francisco tomorrow at 10AM for the decision, and then heading over to City Hall where clergy will be standing by to bless couples. (There will likely be a stay if Prop 8 is again ruled unconstitutional, so no real marriages.)

The team behind the lawsuit will, AFER, be llivestreaming their press conference with David Boies and Ted Olson.

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DTS voters continue to shift towards marriage equality support

by: Brian Leubitz

Tue Dec 27, 2011 at 15:45:07 PM PST

Support for marriage equality continues to grow

By Brian Leubitz

My apologies for being away for a while. I've been traveling, and is often the case after traveling, I got sick. So, as I try to ward off this nasty head cold, here's some food for thought on the subject of marriage equality.

As you might remember, we were polling we'll on prop 8 several months before the election. Then the nasty (and untrue) ads about forcing your kids to get married to a gay, or something like that, started appearing. We had no coordinated response, and ultimately that became the story. But in the marriage debate, time is our friend. And as every year passes, the electorate becomes more favorable.

And California's great population of Decline to State voters are moving in the same way.  Last week, the CA League of Conservaition voters released a poll focusing on DTS voters, and the results were quite positive.

By a 2-to-1 margin, three out of five (60 percent)" decline-to-state "voters support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally, with a resounding 44 percent who strongly support legal avenues to marriage. In contrast, less than a third (30 percent total oppose) oppose legalizing marriage for gay and lesbian couples and less than one out of ten is undecided.

In a July 2009 poll commissioned by Love Honor Cherish, Equality California, Courage Campaign and more than 30 other organizations to determine when to seek repeal of Prop 8, decline-to-state voters favored marriage by 49% with 18% undecided and 33% opposed.(LoveHonorCherish)

Now, to be clear, this is far from conclusive proof of anything. LHC has a ballot measure submitted in Sacramento, and is trying to rally support. However, as of yet, there hasn't been any institutional support for the measure while the legal case is outstanding.  With that case expected to drag on for months/years, it seems unlikely that a consensus will be formed around the November 2012 date for a measure. No matter when it goes on, a ballot measure would be extremeley expensive. Now, that isn't to say that I don't support the concept, because I think we really need to win one at the ballot at some point to give the Supreme Court some courage.

And all the numbers are there, we can win in 2012. But from where we stand right now, we have a lot of work to do before we are ballot ready.

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Prop 8 Hearings in 9th Circuit Today

by: Brian Leubitz

Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 10:34:47 AM PST

9th Circuit panel will hear arguments on releasing the videos and overturning Judge Walker's decision based on gay bias

by Brian Leubitz

UPDATE: KQED Public Radio intends to livestream audio of the hearing at www.kqednews.org  and www.kqed.org/news/

In just a few hours, Olson and Boies will be back in action, this time on two motions.  First, Plaintiffs' lead co-counsel Theodore B. Olson will present the oral argument advocating for the release of the trial tapes at 2:30pm PT.  (Court release here) Plaintiffs' lead co-counsel David Boies will present the oral argument regarding Proponents' motion to vacate judgment at 3:30pm PT. I'm hoping to be on hand for those, but I expect competition for those seats to be a little tough. You can also check out the Prop 8 Trial Tracker for live coverage if I'm not able to make it.

If the appellate court does not block the video tape release, and there isn't an emergency Supreme Court intervention, expect the courts to release those tapes shortly.

The motion to vacate is that silly one about Judge Walker not being able to rule fairly on the issue because he is gay.  Judge Ware dismissed it curtly, and as I have written on several occasions (including here and here), it should receive pretty short shrift.  The Prop 8 team is essentially arguing that minorities can not rule on civil rights cases that remotely affect them.  I'm wondering if they would have the temerity to argue that a female judge couldn't decide a gender case, or an African-American judge couldn't decide a racial discrimination case.  It should be, and likely will be, rejected almost out of hand.

More updates on this later today.

2:45: I'm at the court now, where the Prop8ers are presenting their case regarding the video. There basic argument is that they are very injured, and that the code of civil procedure trumps the common law right to access materials from the trial.

Judge2: you had two witnesses? Didnt they go on tv?

See my twitter feed for more updates.

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CA Sup Court Unanimously Favors Standing for Prop 8 Proponents

by: Brian Leubitz

Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 10:10:48 AM PST

In a general opinion, Court favors giving initiative proponents authority to defend measures

By Brian Leubitz

As I mentioned yesterday, today the California Supreme Court has ruled on the certified question from the 9th Circuit regarding standing.  I'll get into more details in a bit, but here is the general ruling from the court:

In response to the question submitted by the Ninth Circuit, we conclude, for the reasons discussed above, that when the public officials who ordinarily defend a challenged state law or appeal a judgment invalidating the law decline to do so, under article II, section 8 of the California Constitution and the relevant provisions of the Elections Code, the official proponents of a voter-approved initiative measure are authorized to assert the state's interest in the initiative's validity, enabling the proponents to defend the constitutionality of the initiative and to appeal a judgment invalidating the initiative.

Here is the full opinion (PDF), more in a bit.

What does this mean? Well, it ends the easy way out of the case.  Standing is a threshold question, that must be resolved before the judge or judges in the case get to the merits of the case. Standing is appealable, but a decision by a lower court in a case as controversial as this to duck the question would hardly give the US Supreme Court any motivation to enter the fray themselves.  In this situation, the question of standing is really a state law question anyway.  The California Supreme Court should really be the body deciding who represents the state.  

In this situation, both the Governor and the Attorney General declined to defend Prop 8, as they both felt it was unconstitutional. The Proponents defended the measure in the trial court as intervenors, but the decision to appeal isn't one that can typically be done by intervenors.  So, if they were allowed to appeal, they would have to be granted some special standing.  This decision is not specific to Prop 8 at all, rather it just says that when California's elected officials refuse to defend a ballot measure in court, the Proponents of the measure are "authorized to assert the state's interest in the initiative's validity."

In other words, the 9th Circuit is now on the clock for their decision on the merits.  This is not necessarily a bad thing.  AFER has built up a strong legal team and they constructed a good record at the trial court. They have the money to proceed all the way to the Supreme Court on Perry v Brown, lord knows with all the fundraising AFER has been doing, they have the money. But hey, if you are Chad Griffin, the man behind AFER, why not ask for some more money, because, well, AFER is really, really good at that. In his reaction to the case that seems to have been pre-written, Griffin seems to be relishing the fight (and asking for more money.)

Our federal lawsuit for marriage equality is back on the fast track!

Now that the California Supreme Court has finally issued its advisory opinion that the Prop. 8 Proponents have standing to appeal, we can expect a speedy ruling from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.  We are on the cusp of achieving what we have been fighting for. For countless couples like our plaintiffs, Kris Perry & Sandy Steir and Paul Katami & Jeff Zarrillo, marriage equality cannot come quickly enough.

Help us win the freedom to marry for couples like Kris & Sandy and Paul & Jeff. Make a donation today so we can continue our fight for full federal marriage equality. (donation link)

Look, I know that it is in AFER's best interest to move forward for this case, but I think celebrating this decision looks kind of silly.  There was much discussion of the possibility of marriages beginning again this year, but that doesn't seem all that likely at this point.  The 9th Circuit now will rule on the merits of the case, and we'll wait longer for this case to proceed.

So, no quick way out.  Now, given that this case has taken so long, one of the AFER arguments to bring the litigation over the objection of many LGBT organizations, that we cannot tolerate a measure like this for one day longer now looks rather stark.  The question I have now is given that we're still looking at many more layers, could we have gotten it done at the ballot box? I suppose we won't know, as it won't be on the 2012 vote. I'm pretty sure we would have won, but it would have cost more.  And the impact of a Sup. Ct. win on this case would have an impact for the entire nation.

But, we're still rolling the dice here, no matter what we do.  So, let it ride!

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Prop 8 Decision Due Tomorrow from CA Supreme Court

by: Brian Leubitz

Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 18:27:27 PM PST

California Supreme Court will rule on question from 9th Circuit regarding standing

by Brian Leubitz

A quick public service announcement here. A ruling from the California Supreme Court is due tomorrow on the question of standing for the Prop 8 proponents:

The California Supreme Court will decide Thursday whether to allow supporters of Proposition 8 to defend California's ban on same-sex marriage.

Based on the tenor of the justices' questions during arguments in September, it appeared likely the Supreme Court would permit Proposition 8's legal team to defend the voter-approved law, which would push the ongoing legal battle forward in a federal appeals court.

The Supreme Court is addressing the narrow question of whether Proposition 8 sponsors have a right to appeal a federal judge's ruling declaring the law unconstitutional when the governor and attorney general refuse to do so. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals asked the state's high court to rule on that issue before addressing the central questions in the legal challenge to the same-sex marriage ban. (SJ Merc)

As a reminder, this question has nothing whatsoever to do with the merits of the case.  And while I'm not that big of a fan of reading the tea leaves, the fact remains that the Court did seem sympathetic to the Proponent's standing claim.  And while a denial of standing would seemingly end the case and allow Californians to marry, as Chad Griffin of AFER points out, we really can win either way.

Here's the great news: No matter what happens, we win. Either the Federal District Court ruling that declared Prop. 8 unconstitutional stands, or our case proceeds on its merits with the strong likelihood of reaching the U.S. Supreme Court. Because there is no reason to justify discrimination against gay and lesbian Americans, we are confident that the higher courts will affirm our District Court victory.

So, I guess we'll just wait a few more hours, or a few more months, or a few more years, but time is on our side.  The clock is ticking towards full marriage equality.

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Politics Themed Airwaves: Prop 8 and Lynn Woolsey

by: Brian Leubitz

Tue Sep 06, 2011 at 08:51:43 AM PDT

You can view both online

by Brian Leubitz

UPDATE: The good folks at Prop 8 Trial Tracker have liveblogged the Prop 8 hearing.  Check it out, and then begin waiting for the ruling...

Well, not that they really have anything to do with each other, with the exception of the fact that Lynn Woolsey has supported marriage equality from way back in the day.  Woolsey voted against DOMA in 1996, as did many California Democrats. In fact of the 67 House no votes on DOMA, my quick counting showed at least 16 Californians, or nearly double the percentage of Californians in the House.

Anyway, as you probably know, Woolsey is retiring after this term, and she is sitting down with Michael Krasny of KQED's forum to talk about her career right about now.  You can listen in the Bay Area on 88.5FM or stream it live online.  The program starts at 9AM, but you can catch the podcast later this afternoon as well.

No, the Prop 8 case is also up today.  The Supreme Court will consider whether the proponents of Prop 8 have standing to appeal Judge Vaughn Walker's decision.  

The California Supreme Court will hear arguments Tuesday on whether conservatives who sponsored Proposition 8 are entitled to appeal last year's federal ruling that overturned the 2008 same-sex marriage ban.

The court's ruling, due 90 days after argument, will determine whether all initiative sponsors in California are legally entitled to defend their measures in state court when the governor and the attorney general refuse. (LA Times)

To be sure, it is far from clear which way this decision will go.  Prior case law, from my reading, seems to lean in the favor of no, they can't appeal and do not have standing.  However, the issue is a little gray, and that's why the question was certified to the CA Supreme Court.  Unfortunately, the Court did not choose to expedite the process, but we should have a decision before December or so.

However, you can also watch the argument live on CalChannel, either on your cable provider or online at calchannel.com.  The hearing starts at 10AM.

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Prop 8 Trial Stands

by: Brian Leubitz

Tue Jun 14, 2011 at 13:25:12 PM PDT

In a ruling that will surprise exactly nobody, the Prop 8 legal team's hail mary pass fell incomplete nowhere near the closest receiver:

A federal judge on Tuesday refused to invalidate last year's ruling against Proposition 8, deciding the gay jurist who overturned the same-sex marriage ban had no obligation to step aside because of a possible conflict of interest.

The decision by Chief Judge James Ware of the U.S. District Court in San Francisco left the ruling by retired Judge Vaughn R. Walker in place. Walker's decision remains on hold pending a separate appeal to the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. (LA Times)

I suppose this means that we'll not need to probe the minds of every individual judge on every civil rights case to determine who is the most "unbiased."  I'm thinking they could have hired Spock to mind meld with every judge upon confirmation.

UPDATE: Check the full decision here: Denial of Motion to Vacate 06-14-2011, but suffice it to say that Judge Ware didn't find too much of the proponents argument convincing.

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