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Marriage Equality Lobby Day

by: Brian Leubitz

Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 11:45:52 AM PST


If you tune in to the CalChannel right now, you'll see an Assembly hearing regarding HR 5, Asm. Ammiano's Resolution opposing Prop 8. After twenty minutes of some heartbreaking stories from LGBT families, it was hard to see it move on to the opponents.  There were stories of children questioning whether their families were real because their wasn't a marriage involved. There were stories of LGBT children being brutalized.

Apparently the only opponents to marriage equality are from Antioch and Petaluma, as it seems the first half of marriage equality opponents came from those two Bay Area cities. The arguments were the typical, don't disenfranchise us, there are more of us than there are of you, typical ridiculousness. One of the richest arguments, just littered with irony:

We cannot allow the minority to rule against the people. I'm sorry if it doesn't go in your favor...I ask that you support the people.

I actually think this speaker, one Florence Cusick, meant to give this speech to the Republican Senate caucus regarding the budget.  It's amazing the hypocrisy, it just burns. She spoke of the persecution of her Irish ancestors, and the persecution of her minority.

It really is amazing how one minority seeks to push down another once they have moved up the ladder. The repeated invoking of allowing a majority to oppress a minority. They gloat of prevailing, cry of disenfranchisement. And of course, the slippery slope argument leads to pedohilia, thanks to a pastor named Chauncy Gillings of Salinas. Why the Yes on 8 folks can't fathom the distinction, one of consent.

But in the end, democracy can only go so far. Democracy can only go so far as the tyranny of the majority does not

Asm. Ted Lieu (D-LA County) made quite a powerful speech.

Ten years ago I did not support marriage equality. I am a proud co-author of HR5, and proud to support Sen. Leno's marriage equality bills. To me the issue is very simple, it's about love. You never see the words love in the constituion.  And that's precisely the point. Government ought not to be regulating the most sacred private parts of loving indivisuals. I love my wife, but there is no reason that love takes any precedence over Asm. Ammiano's love, or Sen. Perez's love of his life. There is nothing unique about my love that qualifies my wife and I to get a piece of paper that says marriage, that Tom Ammiano can't get for the love of his life.

No matter where you believe love flows form Jesus CHrist, as I do, or from Allah or from the human condition, you believe that love is the most sacred part of life. ... For government to choose winners and losers as to which love qualifies for what, is the ultimate offensive notion of what we are ll about. The issue isn't about your beliefs, it is about whether you think the government should be regulating in this most sacred area.

My view is that government should not pick winners and losers. We need to treat everybody equally. Government should stay the hell out of regulating this most sacred institution.

The video should be up on the CalChannel's recent activity page soon.

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ted lieu (0.00 / 0)
Assemblyman Lieu is a Democrat from the South Bay/LA Torrance.


D'oh (0.00 / 0)
That was a relic from an earlier version where I was quoting Van Tran (R-OC). Thanks for the heads up.

I'm proud to work for Kamala Harris for AG, but my opinions are entirely my own.

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Petaluma? (0.00 / 0)
Apparently the only opponents to marriage equality are from Antioch and Petaluma

Are you sure about that?

Petaluma?

Antioch I can see but Petaluma?

Jared Huffman, (D) San Rafael, is the 6th district Rep.


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Yeah, a church bussed them in (0.00 / 0)
or, that's what I'm guessing.  I'm pretty sure that Petaluma went No on 8, but you know, there are groups willing to carpool everywhere.

Jared Huffman is a strong proponent of marriage equality.

I'm proud to work for Kamala Harris for AG, but my opinions are entirely my own.


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Ahh... (0.00 / 0)
I'm not watching but it was a "concerned citizen" I surmise. Yes, I'm ashamed to say we did not vote the right way on 8. It was pretty close, though. It may take a few election cycles but eventually. We do have a helluva lot of churches in this town. Not all of them are wingy but enough of them.

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Wait a sec (0.00 / 0)
I just checked the results and Sonoma county went 2 to 1 No on 8.

http://www.sonoma-county.org/r...

PROP 8 - Eliminate Right
of Same-Sex Couples
Complete Precincts: 453 of453
Yes 76,143 33.6%
No 150,763 66.4%

Now it is possible that a precinct by precinct breakdown shows Petaluma as going yes on 8 but I can't see why. We do have our share of cowboys, Fox news addicts and conservatives.


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yeah (0.00 / 0)
I know Sonoma County went No on 8 (ie pro-marriage equality), but I've not seen any further breakdown on Petaluma specifically.

I'm proud to work for Kamala Harris for AG, but my opinions are entirely my own.

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spell it Ted LIEU, not as posted. (0.00 / 0)
spell it Ted LIEU, not as posted.

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great work (0.00 / 0)
You all are doing great work under enormous pressure.
keep at it.
and thanks!

So, (0.00 / 0)
how can this resolution influence the legal challenges? Only the Supreme Court can overturn Prop 8.

Out on a limb (0.00 / 0)
What this does is to tell the Supreme Court that when they go out on a limb and side with us, we've got their back.  It tells that that that "limb" is really a strong tree branch and it will hold their weight just fine.

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Bravo Ted Leiw! (0.00 / 0)
He cuts to the "heart" of the matter.

I like to pose the question this way:

Would you trade your Marriage for a "Reproductive Union"?

As for Ms. Cusick... A large chunck of "The People" didn't vote against marriage equality. They voted against a ridiculous straw man of compulsory, "no-parents-involved", "lifestyle" sex education for elementary school students... which the Yes8's final TV scare-campaign claimed would follow defeat of P8.


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