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Mythbusting the African American Vote and Prop 8

by: Robert Cruickshank

Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 09:28:20 AM PST


In the days after Proposition 8's passage, much was made of a CNN Exit Poll showing 70% of African Americans voted for Prop 8. That poll had a number of problems including a small sample size. But the damage had been done, and it soon became conventional wisdom that black voters made the difference, that Obama brought out a huge wave of black anti-gay voters, etc.

But a further review of the evidence, more accurate exit polling, and academic analysis suggests that the 70% figure is way off, as David Mixner reports:

Dr. Fernando Guerra of Loyola's Levy Center for the Study of Los Angeles did a far more extensive poll than CNN and found that the 70% figure was way too high. The figure is closer to 57% (still not acceptable) but a long way from the 70%. Other models that I have been running in an attempt to get the facts and not the emotions show the latter a more likely figure.

The other data that appears to be emerging (BUT yet to be totally verified) is that African-Americans who early voted (which was a huge number) voted YES while those on election day voted NO. Remember we did not do extensive campaigning in many of the African-American precincts until the final week or so which was long after tens of thousands had already voted. Our campaign was slow to use Obama's opposition to Proposition Eight which he gave the day after the initiative qualified five months before the election.

That explanation makes much more sense than anything else I've seen. Early voters tend to be older and it would make sense if some of them in the African American community were strongly associated with Yes on 8 churches. Once the No on 8 campaign finally got its act somewhat together and did outreach to African Americans, we saw the rewards on Election Day.

Ultimately this reminds us how cheap, stupid, and misguided the scapegoating of African Americans over Prop 8 has been. Prop 8's passage revealed that the marriage equality movement has a lot of outreach to do in this state - to older voters, voters living in "red California," to some Latinos and African Americans but also to numerous white voters (if whites had voted strongly No, this discussion would be moot), to Asian and Pacific Islanders, to some religious groups, including LDS Californians.

When the next campaign happens we will be sure to not make these same mistakes. Outreach is going to happen early and often. Just as Barack Obama took his campaign to red America - organizing in places Democrats never before thought they could win, reaching out to voters Dems often ignored - so too must the Prop 8 campaign adopt an inclusive and assertive organizing strategy, mobilizing our base and doing outreach in every community that did not vote strongly enough for marriage equality.

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57% (0.00 / 0)
Would seem about accurate, far more accurate than the 70% figure being bandied about. I mean, if you simply look at the way the assembly districts voted, something was seriously off.

Now, it's clear we needed to do a better job at outreach and using Obama's opposition. And, if there's a next time on this, whether it is about judges or about an actual prop, we surely will do better.

But we can't leave it for just a campaign. Before we ever start any official electoral campaign we will need to do our best to show Californians why this issues is important, and why equality matters for all Californians.

I think?


I agree with you entirely, Robert. (0.00 / 0)
Especially with regard to voters who reside in the "red" parts of the state.
But I do think this outreach needs to start NOW.  We cannot wait until the next campaign begins.

Challenge still Remains (0.00 / 0)
The new numbers are certainly encouraging, but they don't change the task ahead of us.  Given that African Americans made up about 10 percent of the electorate in California, Prop 8 still would have passed even if every African-American had stayed home-even if the 70-30 margin was true.

Based on the CNN exit polls by party ID, Democrats and Independents opposed Prop 8 by 64-36 and 54-46 margins, respectively.  Republicans showed much more solidarity, voting 82-18 for Prop 8, or netting roughly two million votes for Prop 8.  Unless we can go on offense in the predominantly white GOP base, no amount of outreach to the African-American community will reverse this.  For Prop 8 to have been defeated, African-Americans would have had to vote 56-44 against--a much better margin than we saw among whites and Asians--just to tie.

We need to work hard to cut into the margin among black and latino voters, but whites still make up a very large portion of the electorate and we can't ignore them quite yet.


i suspected as much (0.00 / 0)
thanks for correcting that misperception, robert.

looking through the county maps, one area that would have made the difference is the gold country/sierra foothills. if you compare votes on prop 4 and prop 8, both red-button culture war stuff, both pushed hard by the catholic church (yes, while we're all fixating on mormons as enemies du jour, the catholic church has if anything been more involved with funding these sorts of props), and yet in the gold country, prop 4 either narrowly lost or narrowly won, whereas prop 8 was passing in the high 50s to 60-40.

that means there's around 8-10% of the voters around there that voted against parental notification but for banning marriage equality. those are people that any future campaign should be working on.

if you want to push a social change, it needs to be a permanent campaign, even if it might not feel like one to the people being contacted. elections are elections, but the only way we win is to change the facts on the ground.


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