Senator Feinstein cuts an Ad for No on 8

too much subtext (0.00 / 0)

I think it's a good ad, and very far in the right direction.  But defining the discrimination is just needed.  I'm swimming against the prevailing opinion here, but unless you say who is targeted, I think it falls short.

If I were a gay man, after seeing how I've been completely removed from this entire debate, I'd be a little embarrassed.  My rights are either worth talking about or they're not.  Have some respect for the people of California.  You don't have to sneak something like this by people.

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by: David Dayen @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 00:33:49 AM UTC

I'd like to see more (0.00 / 0)

representation of the LGBT community. But, honestly, I'm less concerned about that than others. PR can be done anytime.

I think?

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by: Brian Leubitz @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 01:05:43 AM UTC

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Seems like this is beside the point (0.00 / 0)

To some degree.

If it's a matter of hurt feelings vs. defeating Prop 8, the latter wins hands down. Which I'm sure you don't disagree with. So if your point is that the de-emphasis of GLBT in the campaign is bad electoral strategy, that's one thing. But if your argument is only that it's not respectful enough, I'm not convinced.

By no means do I think that the latter is an irrelevant concern. Not by a long shot. But (and I'm willing to be angrily shouted down on this) I would think that- if forced to choose only one- defeating Prop 8 would outweigh hurt feelings.

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by: Lucas O'Connor @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 07:14:35 AM UTC

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Those long-term politics (0.00 / 0)

If DiFi is considering a run for governor, as Willie Brown suggests, this is a great move for the primary. And, really, if she gets the nomination, I find it difficult to envision the scenario where a Republican beats her, so any residual effect for the general is likely irrelevant.

I think?

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by: Brian Leubitz @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 00:43:05 AM UTC

Now she needs to ... (0.00 / 0)

... cut an ad against Prop 4.

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by: Airpower @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 00:50:57 AM UTC

good for her (0.00 / 0)

Sen. Feinstein was one of the folks who more or less blamed Newsom for the 2004 loss what with the gay marriage licenses and all. But I have to believe she saw just how truly ugly this campaign got, not just with the yes on 8 crowd but the ugliness of the mccain campaign as well, and finally decided to just tell these freaks to stfu and use her gravitas for the forces of good.

I realize that giving kudos to Feinstein when she does the right thing is "evil" according to the folks on the left, but you know what ? I don't care WHO signs on to fight discrimination. So long as they're not super evil too, I say, anyone standing up to the multimillion dollar out of state Mormon funded nonsense deserves a little praise.

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by: gregdewar.com @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 01:40:08 AM UTC

A bit more generalization (0.00 / 0)

about lefties and progressives, please.  I don't think you've done quite enough of that recently.

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by: jsw @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 02:12:23 AM UTC

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second that, I criticize DiFi plenty, but haven't called her evil (0.00 / 0)

I love this ad, as I loved DiFi's early and strong opposition to the political firings of Attorneys General.  But when she shirks her responsibility on the Senate Judiciary or Intelligence Cmtes, we should say so.  I did and will again if necessary.

That said, well done, Senator.  Thank you for a much needed ad against Prop 8.

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by: Beth Caskie @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 05:15:52 AM UTC

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It will probably (0.00 / 0)

Be the most effective ad yet, which is good. But it's also a clear sign she's thinking seriously about running for governor, which is bad.

I'd like to see a joint ad with Ahnold and Obama. But that would be hard to arrange.

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by: Populista @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 01:52:02 AM UTC

I wanna cry (0.00 / 0)

in a GOOD way - seeing this right now, gives me SO MUCH HOPE.  Right politician, right message - I just HOPE the buy is sufficient.

Dan and I had decided to wait for next year to get married - and everytime there is a new poll, we wonder "are we making a mistake" in waiting.  Right now, I'm comfortable waiting...

So - work hard to defeat Prop 8 - then tons of wedding planning to pull off our July 2, 2009 wedding....   Yup - got my plans in order...

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by: Hermit9 @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 02:42:31 AM UTC

Mazel tov (0.00 / 0)

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by: Beth Caskie @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 05:16:47 AM UTC

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no fan of DiFi (0.00 / 0)

I am no fan of DiFi after her blaming of the 2004 election on gay rights activists, but this ad goes a long way to ameliorating my ill will towards her...still would like to see a REAL progressive in Sacramento in 2010, though!

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by: dlmenninger @ Wed Oct 29, 2008 at 13:39:52 PM UTC