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Giuliani Throws Down Gauntlet For California Dems

by: Lucas O'Connor

Fri Aug 24, 2007 at 13:47:34 PM PDT


Rudy Giuliani made a swing through Southern California this week to scoop up money and speak to supporters in Del Mar Wednesday evening.  While trying to overcome some concerns from Republican primary voters that he's not conservative enough, he said that he "can be competitive in every single state," that he can take California.

A bold statement for a candidate who supports the continued Occupation of Iraq and rarely has criticism for President Bush.  But California Democrats have been put on notice: Rudy Giuliani plans to take California.

Lucas O'Connor :: Giuliani Throws Down Gauntlet For California Dems
What justification does he offer?  He starts by assuring folks that no other Republican would even TRY to compete in California.  But then also explains why he thinks Californians would prefer his vision for the future: "I do not believe in giving our enemies a timetable for our retreat in a time of war the way Hillary Clinton and John Edwards and Barack Obama do," presumably meaning that he's working on some sort of surprise withdrawal or waiting until a time of peace to give "enemies" a timetable.

This apparently is a selling point here on the left coast despite the Field Poll from last week finding that 72% of Californians and a plurality of Republicans disapprove of Bush's handling of Iraq.  This also despite the same Field Poll finding that two-thirds of Californians and 40% of Republicans want some or all troops withdrawn from Iraq.  Rudy Giuliani is in your head California.

He went on to tout his executive experience, noting that former Chula Vista Mayor and current County Supervisor Greg Cox has more executive experience than the current Democratic frontrunners:

"The three leading Democratic candidates, they've never run a city. They've never run a state. I don't think they've ever run a business of any size," Giuliani said. "This is the chief executive office of the United States. It's the most difficult executive position in the world. You would think that to run for it you would have to have some executive experience."

Giuliani of course has never run a state or a business, but that's beside the point.  He seems to think that a state who has twice elected a former actor with no political experience of any kind, nominated by the party he is trying to woo, is concerned about a lack of political experience in its executives.  And I don't even mean Reagan.  Rudy Giuliani knows you better than you know yourself California.

Giuliani's relatively moderate (relative to the Republican party that is) stances on abortion, gun control, and other issues mean he can probably get in the door in California.  The success of a pseudo-moderate like Schwarzenegger means the possibility exists for traction.  I guess he thinks that's enough for voters to overlook supporting the Occupation of Iraq, not reading the 9/11 Commission Report, getting booted from the Iraq Study Group, the opposition to free speech that earned him a "Lifetime Muzzle Award," the lying and attempts to take false credit for 9/11 response, the shabby treatment of first responders, the corrupt appointees, and the generally lukewarm (generously) opinions within New York City about his performance as mayor, the Kerik debacle, the attempt to extend his mayoral term past the legal limit, the racial profiling, the support for waterboarding, and on and on.

I wouldn't think that California would not be much interested in such a guy, but I could be wrong.  He leads the California race for the Republican nomination as of last week though with 35% (Field Poll), miles ahead of Romney and Thompson at 14% and 13% respectively.  And he thinks that after all of this, he can take California.  Nevermind polling that shows Clinton, Obama and Edwards each beating every Republican frontrunner by comfortable margins.  He's ready to bring it.  Because he fits with California.  So don't forget your anti-Giuliani narrative in between all the other politics of the next 14 months.

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Here's a blast from the past for ya (0.00 / 0)
http://archive.salon...

Brimming with confidence, George W. Bush strode into California on Monday declaring that he would steal Al Gore's biggest prize before Election Day. Traveling with John McCain, the Texas governor returned to some of his favorite themes -- renewing respect for the presidency and improving education -- at a midday rally. "People want a fresh start after a season of cynicism!" Bush told the crowd. "Children are gonna learn! Latino children are gonna learn! 'People who just arrived in America' children are gonna learn!"

Bush hopes that the Democrats will learn a lesson about counting their chickens before they hatch. Recent state polls show Al Gore ahead in California, but Bush is gaining ground. "There's gonna be a lot of shocked people on November the 7th! Like the pundits, who don't understand what's happening here in California!" Bush said in an appearance on the "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno." "The pundits are like our opponent, takin' California for granted!"


Funny looking back now (0.00 / 0)
Can you read his line about people learning without imagining him pounding a desk and shaking his fist menacingly?

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Only Giuliani (0.00 / 0)
Is the faintest worry to us.  I happen to think he's the only Reep who can be competitive in the general (except F. Thompson, who I don't know much about though I'm skeptical), and certainly he is the only one with a remote shot in CA.  But, Rudy, lets get real: you're all smoke and no fire.  And it's going to get a lot worse as the huge amount of negative material you've left around gets stirred up in the next 15 months. 

Thompson would be great (0.00 / 0)
For Us. He's basically trying to win the nomination by being George W. Bush. It's like setting it up for us on a tee with Tiger Woods ready to smack it outta here.

I think?

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uh? (0.00 / 0)
Isn't the point of golf to put it in the hole, not smack it out of the field of play?

;)

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yeah, i kinda mixed the metaphors (0.00 / 0)
Maybe I should have said Barry Bonds hitting off a tee, but I didn't want to bring up any Rage onto our peaceful site.

I think?

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here's a question (0.00 / 0)
If California Republicans thought Rudy could both win the nomination and California, would they really be pushing the ballot initiative that would give Dems around 30 EV's that Rudy could win under the current rules?

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Well hey (0.00 / 0)
No reason not to hedge bets. If you lock up 19 of those EVs otu of the gate, he's automatically "competitive" in California. Self fulfilling prophesy of sorts.

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Exactly... (0.00 / 0)
If they really believed in this electoral vote measure why aren't Republicans pushing similar measures in Florida, Ohio and fer Jeebus sakes, Texas!

It's just naked greed and ambition (not that we've come to expect anything less) on their part.

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