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Progressive Californians Decisive on Iraq Supplimental Debate

by: Julia Rosen

Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 18:39:51 PM PDT


I got this via email from the Progressive Caucus.  I happen to be among those who believe that passing this supplemental is the best way we can start ending this war.

It is our Californian Progressives who are dropping their opposition and are letting this pass.  Congresswomen Barbara Lee, Lynn Woolsey, Maxine Waters and Diane Watson will vote in favor of the leadership, despite their reservations on the substance. 

The Democrats are united against this war.

Julia Rosen :: Progressive Californians Decisive on Iraq Supplimental Debate
(Washington, DC) - After two grueling weeks of meetings, Progressive members of Congress brought forth an agreement that provided the momentum to pass a supplemental spending bill that, for the first time, establishes a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

Congresswomen Barbara Lee (D-CA), Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), Maxine Waters (D-CA) and Diane Watson (D-CA) have led Congressional opposition to the war in Iraq since before it started and have consistently voted against funding for the war as a matter of conscience.  Still, they decided that they could not stand in the way of the passage of a bill that would establish a clear timeline for ending the war, especially if the failure of that bill would mean the passage of a supplemental without any restrictions.

After a painstaking series of meetings with members of the Progressive Caucus and Out of Iraq Caucus and other members of Congress, the group agreed that, while they could not vote for the bill themselves, they would not block its passage.

"As someone who opposed this war from the beginning, I have voted against every single penny for this war as a matter of conscience, but now I find myself in the excruciating position of being asked to choose between voting for funding for the war or establishing timelines to end it," said Lee.  "I have struggled with this decision, but I finally decided that, while I cannot betray my conscience, I cannot stand in the way of passing a measure that puts a concrete end date on this unnecessary war."

"Although the debate on this supplemental appropriation has been heart wrenching, I have always been clear on my position. While we respect the decision of our colleagues who will support this legislation, those of us who believe that this is a vote of conscience will remain steadfast in our opposition," said Waters.

"The American public knows a simple truth: you can't be against this war, and vote for $100 billion dollars to continue it.  Let me make myself very clear - I will not stop, I will not rest, and I will not back down in my fight until every last American soldier is home safely to their families," said Woolsey.

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i think it was a mistake (0.00 / 0)
but at any rate, the real test will be what the congressional dems do after a) bush vetoes or disregards the bill, b) the republicans fillibuster it in the senate, or c) bush expands the war even further, and dems choose bertween acting or blinking.

if the dems don't work hard to at least make a show of fighting to end this war, they'll suffer in 2008 (to say nothing of the people over there fighting while we dither).

surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat


what do you suggest? (0.00 / 0)
a bill more to our liking won't pass, the bill that we have may pass but will be vetoed. at least this way, as kos said, we win the message war, which I believe will succeed in moving the ball. this bill is normalizing a withdrawal date...normalizing it for the American people as well as the moderate Dems uncomfortable with the concept. just as Murtha normalized "phased redeployment" last year. they'll start to see that this IS what the American people want. this bill accomplishes both that and it brands Democrats as the party of withdrawal. the last thing we want is to own this war.

I have a friend on the hill who is infuriating sometimes, but one thing he says that I believe is that this war will end not because of some bill that Democrats pass, but rather because someone like Sen. Warner will go to the president and say "Mr. President, it's over." The more steps that Dems take like this one that shows that we have the support of the media and the American people, the more quickly that will come about.


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I actually disagree that it's a mistake (0.00 / 0)
I think they have to pass this, honestly. It's way, way less than what is needed, and I think the whole of the progressive world agrees on that -- this cannot be final step. I agree with you that the democrats have to fight hard to end this thing, but I don't see how anything better comes out if this isn't passed, either -- I think it would only weaken our position from here.

Politically, I think we have little choice but to pass it, and beyond the direct politics, it does set a date, even if that date isn't as strong as I'd like -- that's a step in moving the political conversation toward "when" instead of "if". And that's a vital step, one that has to happen to begin moving the country from a war footing to a withdrawal footing.

I think if they pass it and then shrug off the war because they've "done something", that would be a mistake. And I completely agree with you that the real test is yet to come.


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The real test (0.00 / 0)
Like you say, what counts is the encore. This isn't decisive, but it isn't meant to be either.  As long as Dems keep building, it's a fine first step.

I'm proud to work for Barbara Boxer

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