Ducheny: So, does furloughing the Franchise Tax Board staff save us any money?
Arnold flack #1, (Chris Hill from the Dept. of Finance): It saves us $40 million over the current fiscal year.
D: But what about the amount of money coming through the door, isn't that affected?
AF#1: Well, yes, it costs the state what we estimate to be about $350 million.
D: So how is this saving us any money?
AF#1: The administration feels that there could be no exceptions if we were going to get the $1.3 billion in savings from the furloughs.
D: But this is costing us money, not saving us any money:
AF#1: The administration felt that there could be no exceptions, it would affect morale and everybody would start coming up with reasons not to be furloughed.
D: But this seems to be a pretty good reason. You said yourself that this is costing us, over $300 million. I just don't see how it makes sense to do this.
AF#1: Well, you'll have to talk to the personnel administration for our HR policies.
D: Ok, we'll turn to her. How does this make sense?
AF#2, (Unkown from the Personnel Administration): Well, we felt that if there were exceptions, we would not be able to get the savings.
D: Well, you could have gotten the savings, and probably more, if you had just negotiated with the public employee unions. There is only one union with a contract, and the other 28 or so are operating without a contract. And one more, SEIU 1000, is having their contract held up. This, it seems, is the point of the Office of Personnel Administration. What are you doing?
AF#2: Well, we do lots of things and we are actively negotiating.
D: You are, then why are there no contracts? It seems to me we should be furloughing the Office of Personnel Administration instead of the Franchise Tax Board.
AF#2: We do lots of things, and we have a meeting on Wednesday for a negotiation. We are constantly negotiating.
D: (Sigh)