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California As A Lab: Refining Governance and the Constitutional Convention

by: Brian Leubitz

Mon Aug 17, 2009 at 13:00:31 PM PDT


We complain a lot about the national media not really understanding what's going on in California. Other than an occasional column by Paul Krugman, the national coverage of the California crisis has been almost universally off target. It's been either "post-partisan" drivel about Arnold Schwarzenegger or Gavin Newsom or some other governor past, present, or future, or it has been so blatantly wrong on the issues facing the state as to be laughable.  For a good example of both, you can see the New York Times article from July.

But there is no reason it has to be that way, a journalist could take a few hours, do some research, and figure out a pretty good idea of what's going on here. While Hendrik Hertzberg misses some of the nuance of the issues facing our Golden State, he does grasp the big pitcture in the August 24 issue of the New Yorker.

California, it turns out, is ungovernable. Its public schools, once the nation's best, are now among the worst. Its transportation and water systems are deteriorating. Its prisons are so overcrowded that it has to turn tens of thousands of felons loose. And its legislature has spent most of the year in a farcical effort to pass the annual budget, leaving little or no time for other matters, such as-well, schools, transportation, water, and prisons. This is "normal": the same thing has happened in eighteen of the past twenty-two years. But the addition of economic disaster to legislative paralysis may have brought California to a tipping point.

... The nadir, some would say, came in 1978, when Proposition 13 essentially capped property taxes and made California the only state that requires a two-thirds vote of the legislature both to adopt a budget and to raise a tax. The decline in public services was one result. Another has been a distortion of the state's politics. Conservative Republican legislators have little incentive to compromise or even to broaden their appeal; to prevail on most of what is important to them, all they need is one-third plus one. (New Yorker 8/24/09)

He doesn't sugar coat it, or try to provide some sort of bipartisan spin on what's really happening. We have a cult that is masquerading as a political party that is dead set on pushing social services and all but the richest among us off the cliff. And for whatever criticisms you can levy at him, you have to give Hertzberg credit for recognizing the issue.

The article goes on to deal with the now prominent question of a Constitutional Convention. He's a fan.  Big-time.

The genius of Repair California's approach is twofold. First, it steers clear of "social issues": no gay marriage, no abortion, no affirmative action. Second, the delegates would be chosen randomly from the adult population. (Appointed delegates, Repair California reasons, would be beholden to whoever appointed them; and if the delegates were elected, the elections would inevitably be low-turnout affairs dominated by money and the organized clout of special interests.) The convention itself would be an exercise in what is called "deliberative democracy." The delegates would spend months studying the issues, consulting experts, debating among themselves, and forging a consensus. The result would be put to a vote of the people, yes or no, in November of 2012.

To have faith in such a process requires a faith in the good sense and sincerity of ordinary people-a faith that just about everybody professes. The beauty part is that no one can know what the delegates would come up with-which is why the idea has won such broad support.  ... If California has the courage and imagination to become a true laboratory of democracy, the experiment will be something to see.

You can't blame Hertzberg for his optimism, the whole thing does sound very exciting. And, truth be told, it is very exciting.  Of course, the problem here is that when the lab is your home, it is easy to get cold feet about the whole thing. But, when you talk about fundamentally changing California's governance, you really can't help but be excited. Think of all the cool directions you could go - a unicameral legislature, some sort of proportionate representation, heck, we could even look at a parlimentary system. The world is our oyster in that we could pick and choose good aspects of governments from around the world.

But there is a down side, namely that we could very well end up with something crazy in the Constitution. As Jean Ross pointed out during the Netroots Nation panel, the last time we had a Constitutional Convention we ended up with the Chinese Exclusion Laws.

The suggestion so far is to create a random selection in order to decide the delegates. It is an intriguing suggestion, as perhaps the people would come without the preconceived biases of current legislators.  We would avoid the campaign finance issues and all the issues of special interest money. But biases can be built back up quickly enough, and getting a completely clean slate would be difficult if not impossible.  Depending on the process, we could easily end up with a similar problem to that which we have now: a minority holding up the whole system.

I suppose that after writing about California politics, the cynicism and pessimism can't help but be strong.  But that cynicism is there for a reason. The Republican Party in California has blossomed into a full-on Zombie Death Cult, and that has spread from some of the grassroots base of the party to a general mistrust of the system.  We are now in a period of vast mistrust of the government, and to expect citizens to simply re-empower a functional government is to be almost foolishly optimistic.

That all being said, the process does slightly work in the favor of experimentation.  If we do get a constitutional convention called, we can play with the house's money to an extent. If we get something solid out of the convention, great we have a working system.  If we don't get anything, well, all we've wasted is a bit of time and some money to pull the convention together.  And if we get a document that isn't an improvement, well, it has to be put up for a vote once again. While it may seem odd for organizers and supporters of the convention movement to then oppose its output, the option of defeating the thing is still there.

Is the whole thing risky? Of course. But it just might be worth doing. After all, it's not like the status quo is really anything worth holding on to.

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could the Convention propose legislation? (0.00 / 0)
statutory vs constitutional, is what i mean.

it's certain that people there will have a lot of ideas, some of them very good ideas, that would benefit the state greatly if they were adopted, but that have no place in the actual Constitution itself. that leads to really ugly arguments - "Oh, so you WANT to kill dolphins, then?"

if there was some kind of channel for them, so that those ideas don't have to be ignored or shot down for process reasons, that might help keep things a bit saner.

something like two reports, here's what we think the Constitution should be, and here are some things we think we ought to also do? obviously i am not a lawyer so i'm out of my depth here.


No (4.00 / 1)
They would only be able to propose a package of amendments to the existing Constitution. No statutory authority. What could definitely happen is they also present a report that includes recommended statutory changes.

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The point I kept coming back to (0.00 / 0)
Is that California faces not a crisis of budgets and finance, but a crisis of democracy and governance. The solutions therefore must be fundamental in their nature. Only a Constitutional Convention can accomplish that.

Yes, it is risky. We live in risky times. I have greater confidence that a Con-Con can produce good results than the present situation. And the present situation WILL produce much more horrific outcomes.

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I still disagree that a ConCon will do any good (0.00 / 0)
For those who weren't at the NN09 panel, the point is this: Cal's 4 contributions to national politics over the last 50 years have been Nixon, Prop 13, Reagan, and Prop H8.  We could end up with a good new constitution -- or we could end up with a Latvia-style flat tax, gay exclusionary laws, and a prohibition on public services to anchor babies.  

It's risky, and it's too risky.

Instead, I propose a 58 county, 80 district strategy.  Register the people who aren't voting.  I will expand on this in a diary in my copious spare time, so tell me what's wrong with that idea now.


I disagree with that (0.00 / 0)
We have contributed more positive things as well:

AB 32
Domestic partner rights
More generous aid to poor families (CalWORKS)

And a lot of key progressive ideas and movements got started here, even if they never made their way through the Legislature. Single-payer has gotten a truly enormous boost from Sheila Kuehl's SB 840 efforts. The netroots themselves owe much to Californian activism.

CA hasn't been perfect, as you note, but Nixon and Reagan belong to a different era. Since 1992 CA has been a solidly blue state with a solidly blue electorate. There is definitely a nonzero risk involved here, but I would not agree that the recent history of the CA electorate should be of concern.

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skeptic questions (0.00 / 0)
Why is Repair California's website so completely opaque? Who are the individuals and what are the organizations of this "broad-based coalition" that is "decidedly a people's movement" and why are their names not listed on the site?

What are the principles of the initiative language being developed? Who actually sat at the table to design it?

Who is paying to gather the signatures?

Whe decides which experts get invited to advise the delegates?

If term limits are bad for California because it gives us a legislature without deep experience, why do we think reliance on average citizens (perhaps including some who don't even vote?) To overhaul our whole system is such a good idea?

Is the attraction of a Constitutional Convention just another California-style grand gesture? A wish-and-a-prayer attempt at an end run around the hard work of actually building consensus among California voters about the need for good government and of what it should consist?

To me the 'Constitutional Convention as solution' proposal has the scent of the same get-rich-quick booster-type mentality that has been rampant in California since 1850.

Trying to find a 'one fell swoop' solution to a complicated governing system based on deep cultural biases doesn't inspire me with confidence.

- Janet Stromberg

Guess I still have San Francisco hippie values, although I'm an engineer


Ok, I'll answer some of those (0.00 / 0)
I'll start

1) Repair California is a project of the Bay Area Council and a few other goo-goos.  I think the website is some pretty least common denominator stuff. They only have on there what they can get everybody to agree to. I'm sure once they have something concrete to show, they will. However, I would also advise to not totally conflate Repair California with the entire Con-Con movement.

2) As I understand it, and Robert should probably jump in here, the current package consists of two initiatives. The first amends the constitution to allow for citizens to call for a convention. The second outlines a process and calls the convention.  I think the aim is to consider structural reforms only, avoiding social reforms. I'm pretty sure the BAC and the New America Foundation have been involved with the formulation of those measures.

3) Good question. The BAC doesn't actually have a ton of money to throw at this, so fundraising will be a big issue.

4) I think this is an important point. However, we'll have to see the specifics of the selection process to really know. First, I would hope that these delegates would get some authority on whom to hire, but they should also be provided some guidance.  I'm guessing the Leg Analyst would be a big part of all of these decisions.

5) As for the term limits issue, I think there's a difference. Here you are talking only about structure. Not decisions about the budget, not social policy, but a grand vision of structure. The Con-Con would allow for time to review a slew of options, and focus on the details of this specific issue. In theory, they could take a look at the big picture, without all of the surrounding noise of legislators (fundraising, etc.)

6) I think this is a fair question, but ultimately, the hard work is the hard work to get people to support the change that a Con-Con could approve. If we simply wait another 4, 6, 10 years trying to build support for one necessary reform after another, we'll be waiting 50 years.  We just can't wait that long.

The problem here is that there isn't one magic bullet reform. Majority rule is probably the most important change, but it is certainly not the only change we need.  And that change alone would bring just as much hassle as trying to get a Con-Con.

While perhaps it is a short cut, it doesn't mean that there's not a lot of hard work along the way. You still have to do that messaging work, and change the minds of the public. But allowing voters to look at one plan in totality, strikes me as a lot better idea than going the same old route of presenting them with one reform after another. That game brought us here, and it seems unlikely it offers us the path out.



I think?


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Adding on here... (0.00 / 0)
1. Totally agreed. Repair California is BAC's site. It should not be conflated with the entire movement.

2. This is correct. The New America Foundation has been playing a role in particular on formulating the delegate selection process. This op-ed by Steven Hill of the NAF has played an important role in shaping the BAC/NAF thinking on the issue.

3. Also agreed. Jim Wunderman of the BAC has made it clear that they don't have the money to do this themselves. In addition to volunteer signature gathering he has spoken publicly of his desire to have the campaign's expenses paid through small-dollar donations from average Californians.

4. I have personally been advocating that former Leg Analyst Elizabeth Hill be a part of the Con-Con advising/staff for the delegates. Totally agree that the delegates themselves should make this decision.

5. Agreed as well. I would also add that if we are to have any hope of restoring democracy to this state, the solutions that will provide it will have to come from a body of citizens to have any credibility at all with the voters. Anything the Legislature offers at this point is already tainted.

6. I would again emphasize the fact that significant constitutional change will happen in California and soon. Major economic changes always, always, always produce fundamental constitutional shifts. Sometimes those come in form of amendments, as in 1978. Sometimes those come in the form of new legal doctrines, as in 1935. And sometimes those come in the form of entirely new systems of government, as in 1787. But it always happens. The question before us is who will lead the process, and who will benefit from it.

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Responses + Still need some answers (0.00 / 0)
1) I still want to know who are the members of Repair California, and why don't they list themselves on the site?

2) I want to know who actually wrote the language for the propositions (see response #4 for why this is important)?

3) Who has funded the effort so far (see response #4 for why this is important)?

4) Regarding the selection of advisors: I think it's pre-mature to support this Constitutional Convention proposal before even knowing what exactly it is. The Bay Area Council and associates may have the most honorable of intentions, and I actually think they do. However, they consist of a very narrow sector of rather well-heeled Californians. We have to assume a primary concern of theirs is to make sure the State has a governing infrastructure more likely to support their sorts of businesses. They have undertaken a very large endeavor, which they must feel will advantage them. They wouldn't do it without having thought carefully through the risks and advantages of every word they put into their propositions. The papers have been filed with the Secretary of State. Let's analyze carefully before jumping on the band wagon. Part of that analysis must include an examination of who wrote them and why. In the end, I think we're likely to agree some of the motives are fine, I suspect others will be tilted in favor of people who are already privileged.

5) Response: Talking "only about structure" is huge. Think about the original U.S. Constitutional Convention and the intensity and rancor they had to wade through before finally reaching consensus. We had the finest thinkers of the day (though a narrow sector) not the average citizen at the table. They came to the table with points of view, immensely schooled in the ins and outs of both their own various interests and in the opposition to their individual various interests. A random selection of California citizens (if that is what it is) will not have anywhere near that level of expertise, and be much more influenced by the advisors than would people who have the knowledge and experience themselves.

6) Response to "the hard work to get people to support the change that a Con-Con could approve": Wow. All this waiting for what "could" happen is riskier than digging in now to get our own plan going imo. The choice between waiting for the unknown result of this process (if CC approved by the voters in the first place) and "waiting 50 years" is a false one. We finally have an activated citizenry in California and you're telling us we can't act on our own behalf now but must wait. If we had the necessary organization, we could run campaigns to get major change accomplished in a 5-6 year time frame. My personal thought is to start with campaigns to fix the initiative process itself, and amend the Constitution to make a stronger distinction between revisions and amendments. This requires a strategic approach to cascade changes in a methodical order. The plan would be laid out publicly and with a communication strategy to build support.

I think you have placed quite a lot of faith in a completely unknown process in which you will likely have no role until the final result of such a Convention would come up for a vote. I'm not willing to cede so much, just when we are actually acquiring ability to mobilize online and on the ground in our own interest.

Guess I still have San Francisco hippie values, although I'm an engineer


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Good points (0.00 / 0)
1. The only member of Repair California is the Bay Area Council. There are some other groups that have been involved in supporting the idea and advising on how it might work but Repair California is a product of the BAC.

2. The Bay Area Council's staff and legal advisors have been doing the drafting, with input from a lot of other people as I have described. They have been open to feedback on this. It is not a public process, but it is not a secretive process either.

3. The Bay Area Council has funded the work so far. Other groups, like Courage Campaign, have helped sponsor some of the town hall events around the state.

4. You are quite right to withhold support until you see a final proposal. A lot of people are doing the same and that's a sensible and logical approach to take. I should note that the initiatives filed with the Secretary of State are NOT the BAC's initiatives. They were written by a gadfly named Paul Currier, and he only represents himself. BAC will not likely be submitting their initiatives for a few more weeks.

5. I think we overstate what happened in Philadelphia in 1787. A group of elites, who collectively held more wealth than 95% of their fellow white colonists (to say nothing of the slaves and Native Americans they shared the new nation with) decided on their own, without any authority whatsoever, to meet and write a new Constitution. Their meetings were very secretive. Only at the end did anyone see what had been proposed. Many Americans were shocked, and many were outraged.

Further, in 1787 the average American citizen did not have a high degree of education (though many would be surprised at how well versed the average farmer was in constitutional theory). Today is another story entirely. There are a lot of Californians who possess the capability to think intelligently about how their government would and should operate. After all, it is their government. The delegates will go through an intensive education process, and it does indeed matter who is involved in that.

6. There is nothing to say we cannot act on multiple tracks. A Con-Con on one track, the longer-term organizing and opinion-shaping that you propose on the other. It should be noted that there is an enormous cost to putting multiple different initiatives on successive ballots. That's money we just don't have - and we will have to be playing defense against various right-wing initiatives during that time as well.

One of the most compelling arguments for a Con-Con is that we can use it to push through a lot of desirable initiatives and reforms essentially for free. It's like a 20 for 1 deal at the store. But, if the Con-Con doesn't achieve that, we can and should and will still pursue specific initiatives and voter education and organization work to make those changes happen, one way or another.

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Some responses (0.00 / 0)
The Bay Area Council has been in consultation with a LOT of different organizations on this. But many of them are not yet willing to endorse a Constitutional Convention. People recognize that it is a potentially good idea, but making a formal endorsement of such a project is a huge step that most orgs are not yet ready to make until they have seen the final details. Since there are no final details yet, most orgs are offering their advice and ideas, but not yet offering a formal endorsement.

The principles of the initiative language involve a convention limited in scope to focus on governance, budgeting and elections. The Bay Area Council is doing the drafting, with input from folks at the town halls, input gathered in smaller meetings they have convened with interested parties, and input they've received in one-on-one conversations. It is not a drafting process totally open to the public and is at times chaotic, but from what I have seen, it is not secretive either. I have participated in some of these conversations.

As I understand it, nobody is paying to gather the signatures. Jim Wunderman, chairman of the BAC, has expressed on several public occasions his desire to use no paid signature gathering for this. That is an ambitious goal - the last initiative put on the ballot through volunteer labor alone was in 1982. I do not know if it can be done without paid signature gathering, but I respect the hell out of his effort to make it happen.

The matter of who would advise the delegates is quite contentious. No firm decision on that has been made. I advocate for this to be a very informal set of advisement that ensures Californians hear from the full range of political and legal opinions, and from folks that represent the state's diversity. I favor giving the delegates themselves as much power as possible over the convention's operations, with any advisors and staff playing a supportive and background role.

I agree with Brian that this is fundamentally different from the composition of a legislature. Citizen delegates are essential to the Con-Con's success. This model has been used in two Canadian provinces (British Columbia and Ontario) in recent years to propose constitutional changes. It has been used to craft a New Orleans redevelopment plan. As a Constitution represents the political values of the people themselves, it is quite right that the people themselves draft a package of changes to it. Californians are capable of doing this work effectively. Delegates would go through a process of familiarization with the core issues, a process that could take a month.

I disagree that a Con-Con is an end run, a grandiose gimmick. It is the process of building consensus among the state's voters.

Especially because I would argue quite strongly that such a consensus already exists. Californians want big government. Californians want progressive government. But what they have is right-wing government that the people are powerless to change. The system is totally and completely broken. Democracy does not function in California any longer. The normal democratic processes we lay out in the American Government textbooks ceased to operate here some time ago.

In that sense a Constitutional Convention is the logical step to resolve the situation peaceably and consensually. The convention concept exists precisely for a moment such as this.

Make no mistake - there is going to be constitutional change in California. The question before us is who gets to propose it and by which method it will occur. If we do not empower the people to propose it, then the right-wing wealthy interests will propose it, and may well enact it.

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Pull all the strings you have Robert (0.00 / 0)
If you have the confidence of the Bay Area Council folks and win an advisor slot I'll feel better about it.

Guess I still have San Francisco hippie values, although I'm an engineer

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Death panels? (0.00 / 0)
Seeing how well corporate-sponsored fearmongering works to define a public policy debate, I'm particularly jaded today.  And I can't help but think that the same strategies are going to be used to shape the constitutional revision debate and, if the result is not to the special interests' liking, to blow it up.  It's been confirmed that we live in a time when any special interest with enough money can turn even the most innocuous and society-benefiting provision into a Nazi "death panel."  And I'm sure there will be a death panel or two in the revised constitution.  

I'm convinced that if you do anything to stop the corporate interests from feeding at the trough of government, they're happy to blow up everything that's good and righteous.

Told you I was jaded.


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