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No Fireworks for the 4th

by: Robert Cruickshank

Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 18:00:00 PM PDT


Usually at this time of day the cars start filling the streets of my quiet Monterey neighborhood. Families spill out, carrying lawn chairs and blankets and hot drinks, headed for the hill on the lower Presidio just above the municipal wharf to watch the annual fireworks display. Sure, it's a bit cheesy, and last year was a bit obnoxious when the woman brought the boom box belting out the Sousa and Lee Greenwood, but the city's fireworks display was also a small yet meaningful moment of a community coming together, and it was always the highlight of the evening.

But not this year. Monterey, like several other cities around the state, have canceled the fireworks display because of budget cuts.

I don't exactly oppose the move. Sure, city fireworks displays were a key part of getting people away from using their own fireworks and losing a hand, but as Monterey city officials noted, it's not a difficult decision to cancel the fireworks to preserve other programs:

Kay Russo, director of Monterey's recreation and community services, said the exact opposite. She thought it was more important than ever to use public funds to provide services to citizens....

A $7.5 million budget deficit for this fiscal year has forced $6 million in program and service cuts, layoffs and employee concessions totaling an additional $1 million, said Anne McGrath, city spokeswoman.

"Given the fiscal environment, I know that people will miss the fireworks display, but they understand this has to be done," McGrath said.

And judging by the reaction of my friends and neighbors, McGrath is right. I couldn't justify spending the money on fireworks and policing the event that could otherwise go to keep city employees on the job, keeping the library open more hours, and so on.

A canceled fireworks display doesn't compare to the 900,000 Californians who lost dental coverage this week, the 26,000 teachers who aren't going back to work this fall, the disabled Californians who are losing their caregivers and their support checks.

And yet they all share a common link - they've been sacrificed in order to protect the wealthy and corporations from a tax increase. Social values of education, health, and community gatherings are all being undermined and denigrated by a state government which has decided, without any public discussion, that spending cuts are a necessity. Even those localities that would like to raise their own taxes to keep teachers in the classrooms or ensure their neighbors and families have health coverage cannot do so, because nobody in government is willing to challenge the bogeyman that is Prop 13-induced system of government that prevents tax increases no matter the cost.

So Monterey isn't going to have fireworks this year. Perhaps it's a good thing - the sea otters will be pleased. But if our community wanted to do something else - improve bus service, fix our schools, build the long-desired train to the Bay Area, open a community health clinic - we are prevented from doing it, because we are effectively prevented from raising the money to make it happen. We cannot make collective decisions any more, we cannot take community action to do something as important as saving our schools or something as small and ultimately insignificant as holding a fireworks display. We are stuck with a false and rigged choice - cut schools or health care - because the biggest choice of all, whether to tax wealth or not, is not a choice we are free to make.

It's hard then to not see the canceled fireworks display as a symbol of a broader social collapse happening all around us. On the day we celebrate 233 years of independence, and almost 163 years to the day since the US took possession of Monterey and brought California into that independent nation, the 4th of July seems almost funerary. There isn't much to celebrate, certainly not here in California, where our national holiday feels hollow.

We are a center-left state and nation governed by a center-right politics - and in California, by a government that gives conservatives veto power even though they represent just 33% of the population. On a day when we are supposed to celebrate our freedom, it is rather ironic to realize that in California in 2009, unless you are wealthy you aren't really free.

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Well Put (4.00 / 1)
I attended the Monterey July 4th parade downtown this morning. Very little enthusiasm there.

At the start of Bush's second term, some Republican Congressman mentioned how defeated animals became docile and submissive, like castrated gelding.  The California Republican minority has succeeded in making the population of the State docile, compliant, and demoralized indeed.


I would assert that... (8.00 / 1)
....the populace is not really tuned into what's going on. Yes, there's been lots of coverage in the MSM but nothing too drastic has happened to enough folks as a result of the growing fiscal disaster....

....yet.

When the fire departments start closing one day a week...

When the schools shut down for another month...

When the IOUs start to pile up...

We will see.

Frankly I don't think that Ahnuld has the guts to go all the way.

Come on you ignorant waste of skin. Close the schools permanently pal...

I double dog day yah!

Or...

Stop UI payments.

It would be just like the summer of '67.

Burn, baby, burn.


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Those of us under $150K could be renamed guest workers (5.00 / 1)
Maybe that's the proper definition of second tier Californians.

I'm union staff, but not a spokesperson for my union - all posts represent my views solely.

Thanks Robert...great post (5.00 / 1)
unless people start realizing that these cuts affect THEM PERSONALLY, I think most folks are going to be walking around numb to what is happening around them...thinking all the time that it only happens to "bad folks", to "poor lazy people", not themselves.

And, quite frankly, where is the outrage?


Why did the city ever pay for this? (0.00 / 0)
Monterey seems to have a population of about 30,000.  My hometown has a population of about 13,000.

In my hometown in early June, the fire department (all volunteers) comes around, eventually covering every neighborhood.  First they ask how many tickets the household needs for the fireworks.  Then they ask for a contribution, which is strictly voluntary.  We had five in our household and gave them $5.  Many of the wealthier folks in town gave $50 or $100.  They would raise about $50,000, which bought a big display in the mid to late 1960s.  No one ever had to pay for a ticket.

We would all go and sit on the football field at the high school, which was a block from my home.  In those days, that kind of money bought a very nice display which lasted about 30 minutes.

I can understand very large cities springing for a fireworks display.  However, even in good times, it seems excessive for smaller towns like Monterey and my home town.

Surely someone could have gotten a volunteer group together and planned something.  These are parlous times as the Legislature and others fiddle while we burn.  I would think the citizens would be most grateful for the effort.


Because we're a tourist mecca (4.00 / 1)
And the thinking has been that paying for a fireworks display pencils out if it gets those SUVs full of families from San José and Fresno to stay longer - perhaps even stay the night and boost the TOT revenues. So there is a logic to it.

My point in this diary wasn't to argue that we should have a fireworks display - merely that if our community wanted to support with public funds it or any other community service including those that actually matter to people's lives like education and health care, that we should have the ability to do so, and currently we do not.

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this sucks (0.00 / 0)
If government isn't going to put on a good show then people should be allowed to buy fireworks themselves.

Banning fireworks on Independence Day is pretty messed up as it is but I don't see how you can argue for banning fireworks when there aren't good shows to fill a needed void.

It's hard then to not see the canceled fireworks display as a symbol of a broader social collapse happening all around us.

When I watched a crap ass show up in northern California what I took away was how much it sucked that none of the people around the lake were able to demonstrate their own Independence and make up the gap. One frickin' firework was all that hundreds of people had.

Democrats should have suspended all bans on fireworks due to the widespread cancellation of shows. That's what I took away from it. I'm pissed, I'm sunburned, and if Democrats are too chicken-shit to lead on what is necessary to have a functioning government the least they could do is get out of the way when it comes to celebrating "Independence" Day.

Twitter: @BobBrigham


Huh? (5.00 / 1)
The state practically burned down last year. This year we had another drought year--so much so that farmers didn't plant because they can't get enough water. We're closing firehouses and laying off fire personnel. And you think it's a good idea to have more fireworks? You think burning down more homes and trees is essential to celebrating?

To put it mildly, you have a warped set of priorities.

As to your other point about a lack of leadership by Democratic legislators--they have submitted budgets, quite a few of them. They've either been voted down by minority Republicans in the extortionate budgeting system our state has suffered under since the little-known 2/3 rule was slipped into prop. 13. Or they were vetoed by the governor because they didn't address the waste and fraud his own fact-finding commission failed to find, but that he thinks is a good campaign slogan.

Get yourself some aloe vera for the sunburn. Maybe it will cool you down. Then take the trouble to find out what's really happening before you make suggestions that make even less sense than Schwarzenegger's.


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fireworks are safer then current Dem leadership (0.00 / 0)
Bans on fireworks haven't been sold as because of fire -- because the numbers just aren't there -- but because of personal injury. It is arson -- despite it being illegal-- which was CA's big problem last year. Which is why other than Arizona, it is heavy-handed northeastern states that ban fireworks and it is out of over-protection of emergency room visits not fire danger. The reflexive fear of fireworks is totally unjustified (especially with fire) and the over-regulation does not make sense except as a knee-jerk reaction. But I'm not even going so far as to suggest the common sense step of getting rid of the paternalistic laws, I'm just saying that there it needs to be an if/then with public services. If the government isn't functioning, then people can fill the void.

As to your other point about a lack of leadership by Democratic legislators--they have submitted budgets, quite a few of them. They've either been voted down by minority Republicans in the extortionate budgeting system our state has suffered under since the little-known 2/3 rule was slipped into prop. 13. Or they were vetoed by the governor because they didn't address the waste and fraud his own fact-finding commission failed to find, but that he thinks is a good campaign slogan.

The Democratic leadership makes Sarah Palin look mentally balanced. Each year they do the same thing and expect different results. They have refused to change the equation of change the rules. No wonder wins on policy and is over ten points up in the polls. They betray the state with their cluelessness and are so strategically challenged that they are again getting outsmarted by a fricking movie star.

Don't criticize people when you defend policy that has nothing to do with what you think it is about and then are silly enough to defend Democratic leadership that have been complete failures no matter how you evaluate them. Check your assumptions and examine the facts.

Twitter: @BobBrigham


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but I demand to see things blow up (4.00 / 1)
More fires are reported on July 4 nationwide annually than on any other day, and fireworks comprise half of those fires.

The United States.Consumer Product Safety Commission reported seven fireworks-related deaths and an approximated 7,000 hospital ER treated injuries during 2008.

For that matter, all these restrictions on who gets to fly planes are nuts.  If government isn't letting anyone with a two-seater and a pulse up in the air, I say let the people rule!


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exactly, numbers are tiny (0.00 / 0)
The majority of fires on one day a year isn't exactly a big deal, especially when you are looking at fire calls and most don't cause much damage. Even the people calling for a full ban only cite $28 million a year in fire damages.

You site 7,000 ER injuries in 2008 out of a total of 42,000,000. That is such a small number that it is little more than a rounding error on zero. Again, it isn't the problem it is an irrational fear that causes policy against fireworks.

I'm fine with regulating planes as people can hurt others. But banning two-seaters would be ridiculous. And not allowing two-seaters if the major airlines were grounded would be an absurd policy.

Twitter: @BobBrigham


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except (0.00 / 0)
you're not entitled to see things blow up.  Outside of "bombs bursting in air" I see no inalienable right to shit blowing up in the founding documents, and demanding otherwise and getting up mopey about it displays the emotional intelligence of a four year-old.

Also, the statistics right now cover a time when many states have restrictions on fireworks and would surely balloon in a free-for-all environment.

But actually, as long as the externalities of the $28 million in fire damages plus the expansion of this number with no restrictions and the labor costs to firefighters in overtime, etc. are priced into the product, go right ahead and blow shit up.  Libertarians always want to be free to engage in whatever behavior they want without ever having to pay for it.  So go ahead and pay for it.  The IAFF, who supports the ban on consumer fireworks, by the way, will thank you.


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fireworks aren't an entitlement, just tradition (0.00 / 0)
Also, the statistics right now cover a time when many states have restrictions on fireworks and would surely balloon in a free-for-all environment.

No, most states don't restrict fireworks as it is a chump issue with no basis. Six states allow only sparklers and 7 ban all fireworks, according to the US Fire Administration. That same report says:

An estimated 23,200 fi reworks fires in 2002 caused approximately $35 million in property loss and injured 75 persons. No deaths were reported in the NFIRS data. Most fires are clustered around Independence Day, New Year's Eve, and other holidays or celebrations.

Fifty-nine percent of fi res caused by fireworks occur around the Independence Day holiday on July 4th (Figure 4), often in open fields or vacant lots. As such, the materials most commonly ignited (68%) by fireworks are organic materials such as grass and trees. Grass alone was the first material ignited in 47% of all fireworks fi res.14 Because these types of fires are located outdoors, they have a relatively low property loss (Figure 5).

Property loss is substantially less in fireworks fires than in other types of fires because most fireworks fires occur outside, where the fires do less damage and cause lower dollar replacement value than structure fires.

USFA doesn't just have numbers on fires caused by fireworks. Take Christmas Trees, which are far, far more destructive than fireworks:

Using the latest 3 years of data, the yearly estimated fire loss for December 24, 25, and 26 is estimated at over $80 million. Each year, these losses result from an estimated 11,600 fires that required a fire department response. These fires cause an annual average of approximately 250 injuries and 40 fatalities.

Fricking Christmas trees cost money from fires and kill more people, yet there isn't a completely irrational fear of Christmas Trees so there aren't stupid rules. When it comes to fires, there is no contest between Christmas Trees and Fireworks when it comes to what should be banned first.

When it comes to visits to the ER, it is hard to find things to compare with fireworks as the injuries from fireworks are so low that they barely matter. If you want to go all protectionist against people hurting themselves, it would be far more intellectually honest to go after trampolines or even cheerleading.

There simply is no rational basis for banning fireworks, it is simply based on an irrational fear. Pretty silly that something that makes no sense can prevent people from having a good time on Independence Day.

Twitter: @BobBrigham


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in typical loser debater fashion (0.00 / 0)
you addressed the secondary point and not the primary one, namely, price your fucking negative externality.  I have very little opinion on this matter as I find fireworks aggressively stupid, but wouldn't impose that view on everyone else.  Also, your pals in NoCal are obviously a bunch of cheapskate free riders, as evidenced from the dozens of explosions that popped above my head on the beach last night, including a dud that nearly blew up a trash can, despite four visible displays from Marina del Rey and points south.

But if you're going to engage in an activity that as you admit causes some number of fires and ER visits, it seems to me you ought to pay for it, and if it's such a minimal price there should be no problem raising such funds.  This is the exact same thinking behind an oil severance tax pricing in negative externalities of making people sick by belching exhaust fumes and boiling the planet, or any other sin tax.  Your freedom ends when it starts to impinge on mine, and I'm not particularly interested in bailing out your mess with taxpayer-funded government resources.

So have a blast, but actually prepare for the consequences.


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fire protection shouldn't be ala carte financing (0.00 / 0)
I don't believe in pricing basic government services like fire. And if anyone is going to push such a silly perspective on fireworks I wish they would have the intellectual integrity to deal with Christmas trees first and all of the thousands of other such nonsense that has a far greater impact than traditional celebration of Independence Day.

This is the exact same thinking behind an oil severance tax pricing in negative externalities of making people sick by belching exhaust fumes and boiling the planet, or any other sin tax.

No, a "severance tax" is a tax on severing resources from the state, from separating resources and taking them away. And sin taxes in general are just ways to exploit lower incomes into paying a higher percentage of the cost of government.

Twitter: @BobBrigham


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typical free rider (0.00 / 0)
"I want to do whatever I want and I refuse to deal with the consequences.  Wahh wahh wahh wahh wahh"

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the consequences are almost non-existant (0.00 / 0)
The reason why banning fireworks is ridiculous is that there are hundreds or thousands of things far more destructive. It isn't rational to single out fireworks, it is all based on misguided fear. And few things make for worse policy than irrational fear.

Basic government services shouldn't be part of a fee-based ala carte menu. The entire problem with health care is the notion you are advancing. Caltrans shouldn't be just toll-roads. Libraries shouldn't charge per page read. Our parks shouldn't have to turn a profit via fees. Prisoners shouldn't have to pay the cost of their incarceration. And certainly fire protection shouldn't be charged on man-hours potentially needed unless you want to literally declare war on christmas trees first.

Twitter: @BobBrigham


[ Parent ]
You live in California. The whole state's blowing up. (0.00 / 0)
And your governor still thinks he's acting in front of a green screen, making him oblivious to the noise and the smoke.

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This is simply untrue (0.00 / 0)
Bans on fireworks haven't been sold as because of fire

In Orange County, they certainly have, and I'd be surprised if this isn't true in other wildfire-prone areas as well.

With your "Christmas tree" example later in the thread, you conflate the problem of "starting home fires" (which is bad, which is tragic, which is expensive) and "starting wildfires," which is potentially much more of each of the above.  The state cannot afford the wildfires that we're already likely to have this year without fireworks.

I have to note also that the ban on private possession is largely unenforced, judging from how long it took me to get to sleep last night due to whines and explosions.


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shouldn't have been sold as to fires (0.00 / 0)
In Orange County bans on fireworks may have been sold as fire prevention despite all the evidence to the contrary, sorry for assuming that nobody was dumb enough to publicly make a case for something that is a joke of an argument. Then again, the federal government's Smoky the Bear crap was an awful policy that lasted for decades.

You are right that the state can't afford wildfires (or anything) but that is because of governing not based on reality, which is the same cause of needlessly outlawing fireworks.



Twitter: @BobBrigham


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I'm sympathetic to your argument (0.00 / 0)
And around here, many community groups do really need the money they can get selling fireworks.

But the fire risk is not negligible in large parts of the state.  A big piece of Santa Cruz County, for example, burned last year, and a good piece of it is as dry or drier this year.

So it's a no brainer.  It's not even a matter of whether the state has money for CalFire (I have my doubts).   It's that too many homes are at risk.

Most of this county will go up in flames if you so much as look at it wrong.  There's no question that even "safe and sane" fireworks would do the same, much less the big "industrial" sort of fireworks people like to blow up around here.

In Santa Cruz city limits, its not such a problem.  But up in the hills, it's deadly serious business.


[ Parent ]
Bob, I'm sorry to do this but (0.00 / 0)
it sounds like we have to get pretty basic.  Now, do you understand how fire works?  Heat, oxygen, fuel?  Errant fireworks can provide heat; brush can provide fuel.  What do you imagine is missing from the equation -- oxygen?

But I agree with you about Christmas trees.  No one should be allowed to erect a Christmas tree in a field of dry brush, nor should they be allowed to hurl them, while plugged in, into a brushy hillside.


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In fact (0.00 / 0)
Christmas Town USA - Shelton, Washington, where many of the West Coast's Christmas trees come from - is routinely placed under a "burn ban" every summer. Even the Evergreen State has to deal with the consequences of brush and dry summers - and yes, the burn ban includes fireworks as well.

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the numbers just aren't there (0.00 / 0)
Far more acres have been burned by people falling off of motorcycles on their way to Willie Nelson concerts.

Twitter: @BobBrigham

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And I'll bet that no acres at all have been burned (0.00 / 0)
due to my conducting my secret plasma physics experiments in remote open fields of dried brush -- so I demand the right to be able to conduct them as much as I want!

Of course, one could make an argument that base rates of incidence would be necessary to compare various threats: to wit, are there more motorcycles traveling through brush in a given year, or more fireworks?  Are fireworks really less dangerous once one realizes that they are less commonly present threats to the environment?

One could also go back to the physics of it, and note that we have a sense of how often privately deployed fireworks go errant (from their use in areas other than dry-brush areas), and we have a sense of how much dry brush there is to burn, and we have a sense of the presence of oxygen in the air near there, so that by understanding the physics we can model the threat to the areas regardless of what the past prevalence of fireworks caused brushfires have been, just like a wise legislator might decide that my plasma physics experiment, which are 0-for-0 in causing brush fires, still should not be allowed to take place in fire areas in the middle of freaking summer.


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Present some facts please (0.00 / 0)
And I'll be glad to examine them.

As for doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results, has the GOP done any different? All I've heard is "cut taxes" for years and years. They have, and we have one of the worst economic messes in the nation outside of Detroit. But they're still yelling about cutting taxes.

It's not my idea that this will not work. Paul Krugman and Joseph Stiglitz both got Nobel Prizes for their economic work. They don't think it will work. One of the richest men in the world, Warren Buffet, says, "When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging." We're in a hole and we need to stop cutting.

I won't say Democratic legislators are perfect. I don't believe it. But I do think they have tried to come up with solutions that will not hurt the state more. I do think they've tried to preserve services that are important to the majority of Californians. For example, closing down the 4 state parks in my county would cost us an estimated $720 million/year in business revenues. I don't think that counts the jobs lost, tax revenues lost for a county that is already shutting down libraries because of budget shortfalls, and the trickle-down effects.

Please present the "facts" that show the proposed Republican cuts will do anything to fix this.  


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you need to understand GOP to win (0.00 / 0)
As for doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results, has the GOP done any different? All I've heard is "cut taxes" for years and years. They have, and we have one of the worst economic messes in the nation outside of Detroit. But they're still yelling about cutting taxes.

You need to realize that Republicans have different goals than we do. A robust economy where everyone benefits isn't their goal, their goal is to reduce the size of government so that it is small enough to drown in a bathtub.

They are doing a magnificent job achieving their goals. The Republicans cuts won't do anything to fix the economy, but they are doing exactly what they want them to do.

I won't say Democratic legislators are perfect. I don't believe it. But I do think they have tried to come up with solutions that will not hurt the state more.

This isn't graded for effort and the fact is the Democratic leadership has failed. They have allowed the GOP to hurt the state more because they don't have a clue and refuse to figure out an endgame. They are no better than Rumsfield when it comes to getting in a high stakes fight with no exit strategy.

For example, closing down the 4 state parks in my county would cost us an estimated $720 million/year in business revenues. I don't think that counts the jobs lost, tax revenues lost for a county that is already shutting down libraries because of budget shortfalls, and the trickle-down effects.

There could be no better example than parks. First off, they bring in twice as much revenue as they cost, so by shutting down parks the Republicans can actually take money away from other programs. If the parks are shut down, then they can make a case for privatizing the parks and putting all that land in private hands. And, as you point out, they can shut down county libraries in the process.

That is their goal. They are achieving their goal. Democratic leadership is utterly failing at archiving our goals. And so the state is hurt. And every day we spend wasting time on a strategy we know will fail is another day Republicans win at hurting the state more.

Twitter: @BobBrigham


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Well (0.00 / 0)
There were plenty of fireworks stands just across the city limit in Seaside. Interestingly, I heard hardly any home fireworks last night, whereas usually there are a whole bunch. Perhaps the municipal displays actually encourage the dangerous-as-hell homegrown stuff.

Of course, the fireworks cancellation and rules were just an entry point to a broader argument about how the budget crisis is destroying communities across the state.

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and I think it should be an if/then policy (0.00 / 0)
If the 2/3 rules have so screwed up government finances that local governments can't pay for the displays that were encouraged to replace home fireworks, then it should revert to a system where you can buy the good things yourself.

I don't think municipal displays encourage user lit fireworks, in fact until this year the compact of go to the display instead of play at home was quite successful.

Call me old-fashioned, but I think we should celebrate our Independence and the tradition of fireworks (with a mostly false element of risk) is a cultural touchstone that should be preserved. There was a social compact to sanitize the event and it was successful and it broke down. I just think that absent the compact things should revert to how they were, I'm tired of "compromise" being a one-way street.

Twitter: @BobBrigham


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I'm with Bob Brigham on this one.... (0.00 / 0)
we can buy fireworks legally in my community and its a bonanza for community groups who help fund their programs for the year with the sales.

But if the community is cancelling the big show because of no bucks, thanat least get out of the friggin way and let the people celebrate on their own.

Creative communities should not be totally relying on taxpayer funds for these events anyway. The cities need to get off their rear and develop public-private partnerships to have the private sector pay for this. They get the advertising, the public gets the fireworks and the public gets public funds spent on necessary services instead of more money going to China going up in smoke.  


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Why? (0.00 / 0)
Keeping in mind that I don't actually feel that strongly about the fireworks stuff, why is it that if our community wanted to spend taxpayer money on a fireworks display, we can't? It's your view that public-private partnerships are best, which is fine, you go to your city council meeting and convince people you're right. Don't rig the process to ensure your outcome prevails.

If this actually is a democracy, shouldn't Monterey be able to decide to raise and spend tax money by a majority vote if its residents wished to do so?

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Who is rigging the process? (0.00 / 0)
I'm just suggesting there are human and public safety needs that most cities don't meet because of inadequate funding and getting the private sector to pay for fireworks means more public funds for vital programs.

If Monterey is so flush with funds that it is meeting all of its human needs and want's to tell the private sector " we don't need your stinkin money, we want 'pure fireworks without the corporate-commercial smell," than more power to you. Or for that matter, even if your county budget has a $40 million plus budget gap, or your city has problems balancing its  budget, if the people would rather spend taxpayer dollars for fireworks, more power to them. Local control is a wonderful thing but does sometimes, like fireworks, result in a dud.


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You could privatize it (0.00 / 0)
which is what we do here in Our Fair City Of Santa Cruz.

People go down to the beaches and folks buy illegal fireworks, and Blow Shit Up.

It's impressive.  Dangerous as hell, but impressive.  Sort of like what the lobbyist do in Sacramento, count to think.


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I live in a fire zone (0.00 / 0)
and I'm very happy people can't buy fireworks around here.

Last night we climbed the hill behind our house to scope out the festivities in the San Gabriel Valley.  We were expecting a fairly dark night, but we saw dozens and dozens of smallish displays all across the valley, including one at Irwindale Speedway that outdid them all.

Our house butts up against the mountain.  A family in our neighborhood had a whole host of their own fireworks in their own back yard.  We could see theirs pretty well and also saw when a spark flew outside the fenced yard and ignited the dry grass right behind them.  By the time my husband flew down there to help, they had put it out with buckets of water.  At 4:00 am we were awakened by a search and rescue helicopter who had found another fire.  The canyon mouth is full of smoke, drawn up the river from all the fireworks and brushfires last night.

We and the firemens got enough problems already without making up for yahoos who don't care if the state burns down.


the fact that Republicans have put us in a situation (0.00 / 0)
where we cannot afford to celebrate Indpendence Day, our most patriotic holiday, is irony that knows no words.

I agree but would rephrase your statement to add... (0.00 / 0)
...two words:

...and Democrats...


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Not really a "plague on both your houses" situation (5.00 / 1)
I'd agree the Democrats are like a really bad cold, but the California GOP is more like a combination of Syphilis and Yersinia pestis.

You could probably do without either.  But on the whole, I'd as soon stick with the Democrats.  


[ Parent ]
Same here. (0.00 / 0)
Until the Republican'ts change their attitudes on science, religion, the environment, and inclusion of moderates, I'm not going to even think about voting for ANYONE from my former party.

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