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NUHW: Fresno Ballot Count

by: Paul Delehanty

Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 10:01:27 AM PDT


Good morning from the Fresno ballot count!

Today represents the official count of the ballots cast by Fresno homecare providers in an election that took place between June 1st and 15th in.Fresno County. The outcome of this    election will determine whether NUHW or SEIU represents 10,000 Fresno homecare providers...

Paul Delehanty :: NUHW: Fresno Ballot Count
9AM --So, no wireless here at the County Office Building, so this is a mobile liveblog, forgive my thumbs!

9:15 AM Both sides fill the room. We're upstairs in a small, windowless 30' x 30' room. The ballots are rolled on two carts by the officials. Some of  us are going to have to leave...looks like we're down to 18 audience members from either side.

9:30 A warm cheer goes up from the NUHW side, Toni Landin, an NUHW activist who was injured in a car accident during the election is wheeled in.

10:00 AM They are slicing open envelopes and the ballot counters are working at three tables with an obsever from each side.

10:15 AM We have official news. Just under 6,000 Ballots were received by the County.

10:45 AM Outer Ballot envelopes are still being opened.(The stamped envelopes that contain the secret ballot envelopes, which contain the ballots) Piles of green secret ballot envelopes are rising on each table. Conversations in Hmong, Spanish and English fill the room as the envelope opening machine whirs.

11:15 AM The ballot counters take a break..No secret ballots have been opened yet.

11:30 AM They are opening the green secret ballot envelopes by hand and making piles of ballots face down on the table. (For folks out there wondering...there's no counting involved in this process, just opening ballot envelopes by hand and removing ballots.)

12:00 PM They are still opening ballots by hand. Some of the ballot counters are breaking for lunch. Bear with us here, this process will take some time. This election is well on its way to breaking record turnout.

A big hello goes out to the NUHW supporters who've found some shade in front of the building.

12:30 More and more ballots are on the table. Still no news or ballot counts.Take out coffees slowly are making an appearence.Apparently this office building also has an affordable and friendly cafeteria. The grilled chicken and vegetables gets a big thumbs up as does the Turkey Breast Sandwich.

12:50 PM I'd like to take.a moment to thank Mrs. Hall of Fresno who hosted this blogger on short notice last night. Thank you and enjoy the Irish Dance Competition!

1:15 PM Here's the first official quote from NUHW, "With approximately 20% of the ballots sorted this looks like a close race."

1:50 PM Second official quote from NUHW: "With 30% of the ballots sorted this still looks like a close race."

2:05 The sound of ballots being unfolded is non stop. Envelopes are still being opened by hand.Folks on both sides have started standing up to watch the ballots sorted into piles.

2:15 PM Since you all don't have visuals...let me try to describe what everyone in the room is seeing.  There's one table opening ballots and two tables unfolding and sorting those ballots into piles. There's no official ballot counting at all yet.Each side's observers can look from their position at the sorting table...but the ballots are piled up on the sort piles very quickly.

2:30 PM The last of the mail pallets with ballot envelopes are on the tables. All three tables are opening them.

2:45 Official word from NUHW: "With 75% of the ballots sorted, this continues to look like a close race."

3:05 PM The vote counting area is being cordoned off.

Both sides have grown to over 18 people in the room. The officials demand that both sides get back to 18.

Vote count to begin soon.

3:20 The vote count is about to begin.

At each table one vote counter counts groups of 25 Ballots from a sorted pile, then a second vote counter verifies those ballots. The ballots will be sorted into blocs of 25 by vote and turned over to officials.

3:25 PM The counting has begun.

3:35 PM This will be the fastest aspect of the process. It is going very swiftly.

3:45 PM The room is mostly silent at this point.The count continues. Blocs of 25 votes are being handed in every minute or less.

3:55 PM Still counting.

4:15 PM The count is finished and the ballots have been handed in to the officials.

4:30 The election official has announced that there is an exact 200 vote difference between the sides. One "unit," he does not say which,has 2769 and the other "unit" has 2569.

There are hundreds of set aside and contested ballots. They are discussing those totals now.

4:45 The number of ballots yet to be counted is still being determined. There are hundreds of them and there are numerous categories of ballots that were set aside and not counted. (For example, ballots not sealed in the green secret envelope, ballots damaged in the mail, ballots sealed with tape.)

5PM The leaders on both sides have retreated to strategize how to follow through on the remaining ballots.

Now both sides have returned and are stating what they will and won't accept, and will or won't challenge.

The election officials have agreed to count an initial 300+ ballots that both sides agree upon counting.

Having counted those ballots the officials will weigh whether the margin has closed or not and whether any remaining ballots that stand uncounted could change the outcome.

5:15 PM This goes without saying...but it's clear in the room that the Fresno homecare workers whose election this was are hanging on every decision and every word.

5:35 They've begun counting 290 ballots that were mailed in the retrun envelope but not in the secret ballot envelope.

6:00 The ballots in that pool of 290 are being tallied and we have a new margin shortly...NUHW 119  SEIU 155 was announced to the room with the balance no union or spoiled.

6:10 They now announce that SEIU was the union with 2769 ballots and NUHW was the union with 2569 ballots. The net margin is now being recalculated.

6:25 SEIU-UHW is taking this lull in the action to videotape some celebrations. Both sides are still in the room awaiting the margin announcement.

6:30 SEIU's lawyer claims victory with the new margin and asks that the counting stop. (There are around 100 votes left at issue.) NUHW asks that all the votes be counted and indicates that we want all the ballots protected for a recount.NUHW's lawyer also mentions that there are grave legal issues raised by SEIU's conduct in this election.

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I think?

lol (0.00 / 0)
There's barely enough signal here inside the building...consider this a slow motion live blog.

Proud to work for healthcare workers choosing NUHW.

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Fight the subpar connection (0.00 / 0)
And keep folks up to date.  Lots of eyes are watching and hoping


ballots sorted? (0.00 / 0)
this is not the same as ballots counted? do they divvy them into piles before counting?

All the ballots were sorted (0.00 / 0)
Into rough piles.

Those piles are now being counted and verified and grouped into blocs of 25.


Proud to work for healthcare workers choosing NUHW.


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How much (5.00 / 1)
did SEIU spend on this election and it's this close?

ten million dollars divided by... (0.00 / 0)
...fewer than 3,000 votes.  Looks like their count was way, way, off.  NUHW did a fantastic job.  Now is the time for everyone to get off the fence and donate to the Fund for Union Democracy--this battle is being fought on behalf of all of us who envision a democratic labor movement.
http://www.fundforuniondemocra...

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Thank You, Paul. (0.00 / 0)
inexpressibly grateful for your efforts--today and over the past several months.

Thanks for liveblogging Paul (0.00 / 0)
This is a big vote, with important implications on the labor movement within California.

Sounds like SEIU Wins (0.00 / 0)
If you add up the last two posts that's:

SEIU-UHW: 2924
NUHW: 2688

UHW wins by 236...right?


SEIU didn't "win"--they just got more votes (0.00 / 0)
Check out their oddly subdued "victory" press release at http://www.seiu-uhw.org/ (and contrast it to their June 5 declaration of 5000 pledged votes that is--at present-- still up on their site.

They have now spent themselves into oblivion--they HAD to "crush" NUHW, and spent $10 million in Fresno on an unsuccessful effort to do so, on top of millions for the trusteeship of the Local.  They have huge bank loans (from the Amalgamated Bank, which they're seeking to control by breaking up UNITE-HERE, and from Bank of America, which is an NLRA violation in light of their stated dilettantish campaign to organize B of A employees).  They're embroiled in lawsuits and NLRB charges which will continue to drain them.

They can't do this kind of campaign again--and there are many, many more elections to come.  They can succeed in stalling, but eventually those votes will take place.

Meanwhile, they're left with...10,000 IHSS workers in Fresno who are slated to be moved to the Longterm Care Local (a fact which was curiously absent from their election propaganda), to whom they've made some promises about "protection" that will be VERY difficult to keep.  I mean it when I say "I'd like to see them DO that"--that is the point of having true free choice of unions, after all:  to be able to hold union leaders accountable.

Over at Kaiser and other properties, they've "fired" most of the elected stewards and negotiators. They're colluding with management to imperil the job security of the most outspoken NUHW dissidents (in my humble opinion based on over 25 years in the labor movement, the most revolting thing I have ever seen), employees with spotless records who are now being subjected to reprimands, suspensions, and terminations. Again, sustaining this war is going to be costly and draining; they will pay a HUGE price from preventing democratic votes on representation.  

Finally (and this may be wishful thinking on my part) the rest of the labor movement is going to have to take sides. Fresno proves definitively that SEIU is NOT invincible.  And their attack on UNITE-HERE may not be the end of their agenda for other Unions.  In private conversations with several labor leaders, I've heard a LOATHING for Stern and, more importantly, a rejection of his "vision" for organizing top-down.  I think we'll see more folks speaking out publicly and (it is to be hoped) opening their wallets NOW to sustain NUHW via the Fund for Union Democracy.


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I guess I mistyped... (0.00 / 0)
I meant to say "UHW WINS!" as a declarative statement, not a question.  There is no question that the Fresno Homecare Workers chose to stay with UHW.  Does that mean they will eventually move into a statewide Long Term Care Local?  Damn right it does.  Because that is how Homecare workers will have the biggest impact in Sacramento, and even in Washington.  What does NUHW have to offer?  Less than 300 members who have very little in common with homecare workers and little to no political power.  Today is a good day for workers and a good day for the labor movement.  

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Even if the members (2.00 / 2)
boycotted the "vote" to force them into that local?  Were they dupes who should have deferred to SEIU's plan for what was best for them?

and in Sacramento in SF in just the past few weeks, it was NUHW who successfully fought for IHSS workers.

but why am I responding to someone who won't even use his real name in defense of SEIU?


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Because you lost (3.00 / 2)
and you're trying to spin your way out of it.

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You're absolutely right (0.00 / 0)
(except that I'm merely an observer/supporter/convert, and not part of NUHW)...which is why it's perplexing that you're ashamed to publicly support such a resounding victory.

The real puzzle is why SEIU is expending so much energy PREVENTING WORKERS FROM VOTING on their representation.  You have nothing to be afraid of, after all; unions are SO much stronger when the people who know what they're doing don't have to subject their stewardship of members' dues to ill-informed rank-and-file interference.

I'm sure that just as soon as NLRB and PERB force you to give them a chance to cast ballots, we'll all be able to see how much the members appreciate the wisdom and power of unelected officers and stewards.  And hey, how about those nifty 1-800 call centers staffed by college grads who are untainted by union experience and aren't too snooty to work for low wages (unlike all your laid off International staff)?  Once the workers see how efficient and powerful this new model is, your support will be enhanced even more.

Can't wait to see how you "whip their asses" [D. Regan] in the next couple of elections.  With your superior numbers and representation record, it should be a walk in the park!:D


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