Arnold Moves Forward on Threats

Wow - Epic Fail!!! (0.00 / 0)

Now Chiang is going to have to get involved.  I think Arnold may have some power here to block Chiang from an issuance of essentially vigorish notes, but Chiang has a responsibility first and foremost to pay bills.  He has made clear, he can only pay bills if the budget is balanced.  Since the legislature will not do so, which must be done by massive cuts, Chiang has to pay bills.  

I have to research this, but this is going to be fun - the welfare state in California may fall off the cliff here.  My advice is to get some hardware, the legislature's days of getting paid off to the highest bidder has come home to roost.  

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by: moderation @ Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 16:41:22 PM UTC

budget (0.00 / 0)

  I believe the state constitution requires that bond holders be paid off first and then education (K-12--thanks to Prop 98).  It would be interesting to see who has the power to pay what with what money is left over.  If it is in Chiang's authority, I would send money to those districts represented by those who voted for a budget that Californian's want--that is, cuts and revenues.  Police being laid off in the central valley would get some legislators attention.

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by: MarkD @ Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 17:53:06 PM UTC

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Not fun (0.00 / 0)

I know that you didn't mean it the way it sounded, so this is not an attack.  The prospects of the welfare state falling off the cliff is anything but fun.

Today I am thinking about those who are on welfare.  Some are single mothers who have no job, no education, and lots of hungry mouths to feed.  I am thinking of those who have just enough mental illness to keep them from employment in this tough employment environment.  I am thinking of those who have made some wrong choices and who are on the streets not because they were dealt a bad hand, but they played their hand badly.

For all of them, I am thinking about how much they deal with hunger and sickness and how much dispair they must feel.  I have never been in their situation so my empathy is pure conjecture.  I don't know how they feel, but I feel for them anyway.

I have consistantly opposed taxes during a recession and I have consistantly rejected that maintaining the social safety net or no new taxes as a false choice.  

No matter the solution--if there is one--there is nothing fun about the lives of those who are barely hanging on by the thread of a monthly welfare check.

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by: smoker1 @ Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 18:21:20 PM UTC

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If you review his/her prior comments (5.00 / 1)

S/he really did mean "fun" in the dictionary sense.  We seem to have attracted a gaggle of Jarvistrolls.

Even educated, proficient and well-qualified professionals are unemployed right now - there are simply more people than jobs right now.

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by: auron renouille @ Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 19:13:02 PM UTC

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And in the case of "moderation" (0.00 / 0)

a Jarvistroll with a internet tough guy gun fetish.  Never understood that particular cliché myself, but it's pretty funny.

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by: jsw @ Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 19:30:55 PM UTC

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Steroids catching up to Arnold? (3.50 / 2)

Hallucinatory!

Flashbacks from his days as a bodybuilder.

OC Progressive is Gus Ayer, former Fountain Valley Council member.  

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by: OC Progressive @ Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 16:47:02 PM UTC

Governing by threat (0.00 / 0)

It didn't work when Gingrich did it in DC. And I fail to see how it will work in California now. Though the governator likes to play the part of a kinder, gentler Republican, he clearly is not. Controlling through fear and intimidation is what they do. And he is now showing himself to be a true son of the GOP.

I don't know about the rest of you. But I am fed up with his threats and bluster. And minded to call his bluff. It will be a mess for a while. But I bet the barbarian will blink first.

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by: cfinnie @ Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 19:45:26 PM UTC

Pretty obvious (0.00 / 0)

It's to get those who can't afford to live here to leave.

It's not about welfare and all the rest of the social services per se, it's that the "undesirables" and the "undeserving" are utilizing those services.

Get rid of them, make them go somewhere else, make them mooch off of some other state's largesse, or -- why not? -- let them die, and those who can afford to live here get to stay in California, minus all the riff and the raff.

Just the way it's supposed to be.

And if by chance one of the "deserving" Lotus Eaters falls upon hard times, through no fault of their own, of course, why then all those services that were being wasted on people who were just taking up space and resources will be available.

That's the thing. Those services should only ever be available to the "deserving." Not the waste of skins getting those services now.

It's so simple.

Just drive out all the people in California who don't belong here...

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by: Che Pasa @ Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 22:28:23 PM UTC