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A Sad Day in California: Prop 8 is Upheld, But Not Retroactive

by: Be_Devine

Mon May 25, 2009 at 17:40:08 PM PDT


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UPDATE by Brian: You can find the decision here if the court's site isn't working for you.  

Building off the earlier open thread - In a 6-1 decision, the California Supreme Court upheld the validity of Prop 8. It held that a bare majority of California's voters has the right to single out an unpopular group and strip them of fundamental rights.

The only justice on the right side of history is Justice Moreno.

The Court held that a constitutional revision occurs only when it makes "far reaching changes in the nature of our basic governmental plan."  Anything else is an amendment an can be passed by a bare majority.  The court held that the effect of Prop 8 is "only" one of nomenclature, and thus it does not make any changes to the nature of our government plan. 

Justice Werdegar was the only justice in the majority who is intellectually honest enough to call a spade a spade.  She didn't hide behind the majority's false argument that California's law on revision/amendment distinction has always supported the decision to uphold Prop 8.  Instead, she wrote her own concurring opinion specifically to point out what the majority hides: that the California Supreme Court had to make new law in order to reach its result of upholding Prop 8:

until today the court has gone only so far as to say that “a qualitative revision includes one that involves a change in the basic plan of California government, i.e., a change in its fundamental structure or the foundational powers of its branches.” (Legislature v. Eu, supra, at p. 509, italics added.) Today, the majority changes “includes” to “is,” thus foreclosing other possibilities.
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The history of our California Constitution belies any suggestion that the drafters envisioned or would have approved a rule, such as that announced today, that affords governmental structure and organization more protection from casual amendment than civil liberties.

This is judicial activism at its worst.  Today, the Supreme Court significantly narrowed the definition of what is a "revision" that has been California law since the 1894 case of Livermore v. Waite. They invented a new definition only because it would suit the result that they wanted.  And the result that the Court wanted so much that they were willing to create new law is to strip a previously protected minority of its fundamental civil rights.

Today is a sad, sad day in California's history.

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Results-driven ruling (0.00 / 0)
They legislated from the bench regarding the scope of revision and amendment, and made it possible to reach their preferred outcome by deciding out of thin air that the state will continue to recognize previous marriages, in contradiction of the plain wording of Prop 8.  This allowed them to deal with the violence to civil rights by pretending it is purely a prospective change of nomenclature, rather than a direct attack on people's lives and equality.

The wording of the "doesn't apply to existing marriages" section is particularly telling -- the court says over and over and over that its finding on this is clear and obvious -- which is what you say when it is neither clear nor obvious.  But cutting the existing marriages out of the equation was the only way they could reach the outcome they preferred about the validity of Prop 8 overall.


the revision argument (5.00 / 1)
was always a stretch, and the outcome isn't really surprising.

I mean ... if it wasn't a revision to repeal the state's equal housing law by initiative, or to add the initiative power in the first place, this wasn't a revision either.

the really fantastic part of the decision is that it reads domestic partnerships into the state constitution:

Accordingly, although Proposition 8 eliminates the ability of same-sex couples to enter into an official relationship designated "marriage," in all other respects those couples continue to possess, under the state constitutional privacy and due process clauses, "the core set of basic substantive legal rights and attributes traditionally associated with marriage," including, "most fundamentally, the opportunity of an individual to establish - with the person with whom the individual has chosen to share his or her life - an officially recognized and protected family possessing mutual rights and responsibilities and entitled to the same respect and dignity accorded a union traditionally designated as marriage."  

this presents a problem for the state, as indicated in Justice Werdegar's concurrence:

Accordingly, all three branches of state government continue to have the duty, within their respective spheres of operation, today as before the passage of Proposition 8, to eliminate the remaining important differences
between marriage and domestic partnership, both in substance  and perception.   The measure puts one solution beyond reach by prohibiting the state from naming future same-sex unions "marriages," but it does not otherwise affect the state's obligation to enforce the equal protection clause by protecting the "fundamental right . . . of same-sex couples to have their official family relationship accorded the same dignity, respect, and stature as that accorded to all other official recognized family relationships."  (Marriage Cases, supra, at p. 830.)  For the state to meet its obligations under the equal protection clause will now be more difficult, but the obligation remains.  


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Not applying Prop 8 to the 18K (0.00 / 0)
is, absolutely, clear and obvious if you are familiar with the law governing retroactive application of new laws.  It's sort of a technical subject, but they got it right.

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So do WE try to recall these judges? (0.00 / 0)
Or is that a thing only conservatives do?

If you want to recall Justice Kennard (0.00 / 0)
I would be glad to sign the petition.

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But realistically (0.00 / 0)
that energy should go into winning the battle against Prop 8 at the ballot box next year, and electing a progressive governor who will make better court appointments.

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No (8.00 / 3)
I think we focus our efforts on public opinion and overturn Prop 8 at the ballot box.

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you got it right (0.00 / 0)
I voted against Prop 8, but all of my efforts went to electing Obama.  And 100% of our phone calls went to Nevada, New Mexico and Colorado to get out their vote.  Next election, all of those Obama workers should be working to get the vote out in California.  

I'm disappointed at the ruling but our work is now cut out for us.  We have the wind at our back and what we did not win in court we will win at the ballot box.  I hate to say it, but our Constitution is valid to the extent that it is popular (this is not as it should be).  We need to show popular support for the concept that people can marry who they want.  

Believe me, its going to feel good in November 2010.


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question (0.00 / 0)
I voted against Prop 8, but all of my efforts went to electing Obama

In retrospect, do you think that was the right choice?


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The 'Shindler's List" Dilemma (0.00 / 0)
I think we can all look back and say that we could have done more, we could have done things better, we could have done things different.  But I think that's only helpful to the extent that it helps us focus ourselves for the fight ahead.

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right. (0.00 / 0)
i hear you on that.

and at the same time, I have a fair amount of anger about the result of last year's election, and some of that is directed at my allies: people who supported marriage equality but spent their time fighting something else, either because they thought (incorrectly) the cause was won, or because they prioritized other things.

that anger is my problem, not theirs; it's something I have to work out.

and at the same time, I think it's a fair thing to - without casting stones or yelling or being obviously angry - to ask, do you think now that you made the right choice then?


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I wrote a diary on that (8.00 / 1)
In fact, it's still my most recent diary since I so rarely write them, if you'd like to read it.  But no, if you had provided me with the same scenario again, I would've made the same decision again.  Maybe it's like that Star Trek episode where Picard kept making the wrong decision and the Enterprise was destroyed over and over again until he managed to send a message from the future to the past ;p.

Remember, we were presented with a terribly-run top-down campaign that had no "room" for grassroots volunteers - this was no Team Obama, and many of us had to move on after finding that the barriers to volunteering with the No on 8 campaign were effectively insurmountable.  I was unable to attend their training sessions because I had to work during the day.  Unlike No on 8, Obama's campaign assumed that people were able to articulate themselves in an appropriate fashion, and had full-time workers or volunteers on site to redirect people who were being unhelpful.  As i recall, there were numerous stories about how No on 8 volunteers spent a bunch of time campaigning in the Castro and West Hollywood (not to drive turnout, but to campaign for the measure - the wrong activity in the wrong location), and similarly useless activities were undertaken.

We didn't lose because California is against equal marriage, we lost because the No on 8 campaign made Howard Wolfson look like a genius.  I don't mean to re-fight the civil war here, but...

Yes, Obama won by a large margin, but when I was in Virginia I was also able to help work with local Virginia candidates to the House and Senate who won by smaller margins and who needed boots on the ground.

So no, presented with the same facts, I would make the same decision again.  We deserve a better Progressive movement in California, and I am excited to finally see it coalesce around these urgent issues.


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Knowing then what I know now... (5.00 / 1)
It's a tough question.  I did nothing for the Kerry campaign.  By the time it even seemed possible that we would re-elect that fool, it was too late.

I believed that the US would survive Bush, and as it turned out, it was quite a close call.  But I really didn't think we would survive another Bush Administration even in the guise of John McCain.

So if I knew that Obama would win by such a wide margin, of course I would have switched gears to No on 8.  But I didn't know.


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Terrible idea. (7.50 / 6)
If we support an independent judiciary, we have to support it all of time, not just when we don't like the ruling.

The real answer is to give them a better Constitution to rule from.


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Er, should have read "not just when we DO like the ruling" n/t (0.00 / 0)


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I *tend* to agree (8.00 / 1)
but the reality is that when the anti-justice side will break a judge when they disagree with them, and the pro-justice side says "independent judiciary", are you really willing to depend on the strength of will of the judiciary?  Everyone remembers Rose Bird.

Remember, judges in California are political actors -- elected just like anyone else, with the limited distinction that their races are theoretically nonpartisan.  


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I agree, to an extent, but... (0.00 / 0)
The solution is to return to a system of lifetime appointment for the appellate bench, which the federal government uses.  Yes, it may lead to bad justices being permanently ensconced in the Courts. But that risk is more palatable than justices living in fear of being thrown out at election (and anyhow, look at Souter - you never quite know what you get when you make an appointment)

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I would actually prefer (0.00 / 0)
something like a 15-20 year appointment, but until then political actors need to be treated like political actors.  OTOH, I agree with Be_Devine that a recall effort is not the place to spend any effort.

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The mob threw out Rose, too (6.50 / 2)
I'd much rather the strength of a judiciary who doesn't have to worry about an election ever again.  Give them one 25 year term.  Much prefer that option over the mob striking again.

[ Parent ]
I'd have rated this higher (0.00 / 0)
But my rating system only goes up to 5.  Sorry.

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re: recall (0.00 / 0)
Do you remember the whole Rose Bird recall?  

[ Parent ]
i don't think that's a good idea (0.00 / 0)
work to beat this at the polls.

[ Parent ]
Today's word of the day is "Ochlocracy" (8.00 / 1)
Mobile vulgus, for all you Latin fans.  

awesome! (0.00 / 0)
haven't seen that word since college :-)

[ Parent ]
I believe the answer should be (0.00 / 0)
a Constitutional Convention to fix the system. Anyone knows if that's a possibility?

We're working on it (8.00 / 2)
A Constitutional Convention wouldn't be used to restore equality, but it WOULD be able to fix this fucking joke of a government where voters can use an initiative process to take away rights.

You can check out any time you like but you can never leave

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