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Who Forgot The Governor Vetoed A Budget That Passed?

by: caligal

Sat May 23, 2009 at 11:45:13 AM PDT


A few days ago Dave Johnson of Speakout California posted a diary here: "Don't Forget The Governor Vetoed A Budget That Passed" detailing the January budget bill that was immediately vetoed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

But who actually forgot about it? Apparently the very legislators who passed it in the first place. There has been much bleating and hand wringing from Sacramento about drastic budget cuts since May 19th, but the one thing they could do quickly would be to put that budget right back on the Governor's desk, then go on a statewide full court press talking about California's revenue problem and the need for progressive tax increases.

Too risky? Follow me below the fold:  

caligal :: Who Forgot The Governor Vetoed A Budget That Passed?
Apparently not. It seems California voters might finally be ready to talk about such things. The question is, are Assembly Speaker Karen Bass and Senate President pro tem Darrell Steinberg ready to lead or not?

UPDATE by Brian: To get full details about this poll, see the full polling memo, or this slideshow on the poll. Both are also available here

SPECIAL ELECTION MESSAGE FROM VOTERS:
CUTS AREN'T THE ANSWER FOR BUDGET MESS
Survey reveals voters defeated Prop. 1A because they
are tired of gimmicks, not because it extended tax increases

SACRAMENTO, CA -- Proposition 1A failed because voters want real solutions and an end to political gimmicks, not because the measure extended tax increases, a survey conducted by a leading California research firm demonstrates. The survey of 1000 California voters, conducted May 16 to May 20, reveals that voters are deeply distrustful of Sacramento's elected leaders, with 74% of voters believing the special election is another example of the Governor and Legislature's failure to do the job they were elected to do....

Driving Tuesday's low voter turnout and the overpowering opposition to Prop. 1A was the fact that voters simply do not trust the leadership in Sacramento....

Revenue options supported by a strong majority of voters include:

*      Increasing taxes on alcoholic beverages (75% support)

*      Increasing taxes on tobacco (74% support)

*      Imposing an oil extraction tax on oil companies just like every other oil producing state (73% support)

*      Closing the loophole that allows corporations to avoid reassessment of the value of new property they purchase (63% support)

*      Increasing the top bracket of the state income tax from nine point three percent to 10 percent for families with taxable income over $272,000 a year and to eleven percent for families with taxable incomes over $544,000 a year (63% support)

*      Prohibiting corporations from using tax credits to offset more than fifty percent of the taxes they owe (59% support)

While voters strongly support these options to help California increase its revenue, voters are strongly against specific spending cuts proposed by Governor Schwarzenegger.

*      76% oppose cutting public school spending by $5.3 billion

*      73% oppose cutting funding for state colleges and universities by $1.2 billion

*      68% oppose cutting the state's funding for health care services by $1.1 billion

*      62% oppose cutting the state's funding for homecare services by $494 million

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How deep is the support for taxes vs cuts? (0.00 / 0)
I wonder how many voters would support allowing the legislature to raise taxes with a simple majority vote? As long as a simple majority can increase spending while it takes two-thirds to raise taxes, we're going to have a budget deficit.

It's about getting the conversation started (5.00 / 1)
The support is probably not that deep at the moment, but it's a good sign. It will evaporate unless the leadership takes it up and pounds the message. At the moment the legislators are doing the exact opposite of what we need from the to get the ball rolling.

Guess I still have San Francisco hippie values, although I'm an engineer

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This is very important to keep raising (5.00 / 1)
It's hard to fathom why this isn't being brought up by Dem leadership.  Their failure to do so makes it harder to convince people that there's a way around Republican obstructionism.

Do you have any links to the details of that budget?  I don't know if they did it more honestly and avoided gimmicks in order  

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The Democrats' December 2008 Budget Proposal (6.50 / 4)
Here's a report on key provisions they were considering before it was passed:

http://www.californiaprogressr...

The revenue increases were based on fees that only needed a majority vote (and the Governor's signature) to be enacted.

I'm sure the opposition would call the package a gimmick and would have been litigated if signed, but the bills were founded on the truth that the State needs increased revenues to solve it's problems.

I think the legislature should send a similar measure back to the Governor (and keep sending it) while carrying on a conversation with the voters about real near and long term solutions.

Long term of course we need Constitutional changes for majority rule in budgeting and taxation.

In the short term, we need to bring political pressure to bear on the Governor and all the Republican legislators to stop trying to destroy California. I'm hopeful that an organization such as the Courage Campaign could help us focus that energy and mobilize opposition to them.

Also in the short term we need a parallel effort to work with our Democratic legislators on good budget and tax proposals that we take to the voters via citizens initiatives.

It's time to make a serious effort to work together and do the best we can for California. Our Democratic legislators need to publicly acknowledge that there is no possibility of negotiation in Sacramento. The "negotiations" that brought us the May 19 Special Election were a terrible farce. It has to stop.

Guess I still have San Francisco hippie values, although I'm an engineer


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Yes - at some point, the failure of Bass and Steinberg (6.50 / 2)
and the rest of Dem leadership (including my own Senator, Jenny Oropeza, who heads the Dem caucus) to push for revenue solutions via majority fee means that they are actually advocating massive cuts along with Arnold, and the target becomes them.  

I'd say unless we see something REALLY quickly from Dem leadership, we start letting them have it.    
 

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Don't wait (0.00 / 0)
The time has already come. The Dem leadership has already said they plan to approach the budget with 100% cuts.

Guess I still have San Francisco hippie values, although I'm an engineer

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Stop parroting the GOP talking points (8.00 / 1)
That's what I told both last week. But I'll contact my elected officials too. Where did the figures come from so I can attribute them correctly? And who was polled? All voters? They need to know if the support is really that widespread.

It was a pretty big poll, (8.00 / 1)
You can get the details here:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/62...

I've also provided some links in the update I did on the post.

I think?


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We plan to meet with our Reps soon (0.00 / 0)
It's not too early to start talking to them. It looks like Bass & Steinberg intend to move quickly.

Guess I still have San Francisco hippie values, although I'm an engineer

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