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New Field Poll Shows Prop 8 Re-Do 48% YES, 47% NO, 5% UNDECIDED

by: MadProfessah

Tue Mar 10, 2009 at 10:17:30 AM PDT


Tuesday's Daily Roundup by the Capitol Weekly reports on a new poll which shows a closely divided electorate on the question of whether marriage equality should be allowed in California:

"Voters in California are sharply divided on same-sex marriage, and an amendment to overturn Prop. 8 would depend largely on campaigning and voter turnout, according to a Field Poll to be released today," writes the Chron's Leslie Fulbright.

"The poll of 761 registered voters shows 48 percent in favor of a constitutional amendment to allow same-sex marriages, with 47 percent opposing and 5 percent undecided.

"The California Supreme Court is currently considering challenges to Prop. 8, the initiative passed by voters in November that banned same-sex marriage. Proponents say that if the court doesn't side with them, they will work on a measure to overturn the ban."

Though views on same-sex marriage vary greatly according to age, geography, political party and religious preference, the numbers overall are almost equally split."'

Opinions haven't changed much since November,' said Field Poll Director Mark DiCamillo of the election where 52 percent of voters approved Prop. 8. 'The closeness of the divide suggests it would depend on the quality of the campaigning and voter turnout.'" Dan Walters reads the poll and writes: "It could be argued that gay rights groups had their best shot in 2008 as they sought to defeat Proposition 8 and allow an earlier Supreme Court decision, validating same-sex marriage, to stand. It was an extremely high-turnout presidential election in which Democrats dominated from the White House down."

It's likely that 2010's voter turnout will be millions of voters smaller and somewhat less liberal than the 2008 electorate, although it's not certain yet whether a pro-gay marriage measure would be on the June primary ballot, whose turnout would be even lower, or on the November general election ballot."

If the Supreme Court were to uphold Proposition 8 and gay rights groups were to seek a 2010 measure, only to lose again, their cause could be stalled for many years."

So, what do you think? If the California Supreme Court does not overturn Proposition 8, should we try and repeal it in 2010 or 2012? MadProfessah votes for going forward on November 2010. I seriously question Dan Walters' views on this topic since he has been so wrong before.
There are some other interesting facts in the crosstabs of the poll:
According to the poll, Democrats favor same-sex marriage by 63 percent and 32 percent oppose. Republicans are 70 percent opposed and 24 percent in favor. In the San Francisco Bay Area, those polled are 64 percent in favor and 31 percent opposed. In Los Angeles County, 55 percent favor and 40 percent oppose. Voters aged 18 to 39 favor gay marriage by 55 percent while those 65 or older are 58 percent opposed, according to the poll.
MadProfessah :: New Field Poll Shows Prop 8 Re-Do 48% YES, 47% NO, 5% UNDECIDED
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So let's register some more younger voters (0.00 / 0)
before this next comes on the ballot.

And figure out how to turn them out.


I like the Nov 2010 date (0.00 / 0)
It's going to be the next big election.  Young voters are the ones needed to pass Prop 8, and youth show up in greatest numbers during big elections.  

Although waiting that long would suck, we need demographics to do their work.  All the 17 year old and many of the 16 year olds will have a chance to turn 18 first.  And those who are going to become non-voters by virtue of death need a chance to pass away.

We also need time to keep convincing people.  I don't have research on this, but I suspect the more people know, the more likely they are to support full marriage equality.  So more time means more converts to that view.  

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Tough decision... (0.00 / 0)
... one that I would gladly defer to those with more experience in political strategy.

But I would put two measures on the ballot: One to allow gay marriage, and another to ban compulsory, "surprise the parents", sex-education classes where they give out books about how a "prince can marry a prince".

I suspect Prop-8 would go down in a landslide if voters were allowed to make that distinction. :-)


Um... (0.00 / 0)
The second thing you describe there is already not permitted by state law.

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A Republican wet dream - it keeps coming up on the ballot (0.00 / 0)
... and the looney- tune wingnuts like Tom McClintock and Dana Rorabacher keep getting re elected because the LDS Church is using tithe money as PAC money, tax free.

The Supreme Court didn't look like they cared all that much, the arguments put forth by the state Attorney General.... meh.

My guess is that they will not undo the current same gender marriages because that would cause the most political and legal fallout upon the heads of the looney- tune wingnut Republicans.  Even Joseph Q & Apathena Public might be able to "get" that the state deciding to divorce couples because some out of state minority religion hates them isn't exactly fair or nice.  

SacBeetle-  They aren't paying Dan Walters to be correct, just to generate more hits to their barely functional website.  It's like reading text messages at this point-  was there an article, why did they abreviate so much, and where did it go.....

The question becomes what sort of topic are the crazies going to start obsessing over before the next election.  You would be best to monitor the emails coming off the Republicans, they're the ones carefully gauging what sort of new out rage they can get their constituents hyped up over for the next election.  Will it be Blacks are Incompetent or your more basic all Brown People are Terrorists or We're Here to Peep Into Your Bedrooms before We Steal Your Money and Blame the Black and Brown People.  


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