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Two Data Points That Will Change California Permanently

by: David Dayen

Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 13:33:06 PM PDT


One is national, the other state-specific.  Both of them explain why we're starting to see traces of jelly in the knees of Republicans as they try to figure out how they're ever going to win an election again.

Nationally, the new party identification numbers by age group are out from the Pew Center.  These are incredible.

Democrats now hold a 25 POINT advantage among voters aged 18-29.  It is generally assumed that partisan identification hardens with each passing election, and by the time you get someone to vote with a party for the third time in a row, you've got them for life.  Over the next five to ten years, we could get that advantage for an entire generation.  This is the chickens coming home to roost (if I can use a phrase so intimately involved with Rev. Wright without accusations of being an angry black liberation theologist) for 30 years of failed Republican policies, and nowhere is that as acute than in California, where Republicans are on the wrong side of the environment, the economy and health care.

The local set of numbers is even more striking.

Forty-nine percent of California's children between 12 and 17 have at least one immigrant parent, a phenomenon that could dramatically change the composition of the state's electorate within several years, according to a report released Tuesday.

Of these 1.2 million kids, 84 percent are U.S. citizens, either because they were born here or were naturalized, said Rob Paral, a Chicago-based demographic researcher who prepared the report, "Integration Potential of California's Immigrants and their Children."

The report predicts that as these children turn 18, they could help fuel a rise in immigrant voters by 2012.

The combination of these two numbers spell total doom for Republicans.  Young voters are moving rapidly to the Democrats, and millions of California children are reaching voting age, mindful of Republican demonizing on immigration issues and the pain they've delivered to their families.  Now think about potentially 30% of the electorate being made up of these children and their legal immigrant families.

The wave is coming, my friends, the wave is coming.

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and that is where the supreme court ID ruling comes in (8.00 / 1)
as it enables the republicans' last ditch efforts to hold back the tide. they don't need redistricting, they need a poll tax to remain viable.

Exactly (8.00 / 1)
We need to beat back those efforts here in CA, and then take the offensive with things like same-day registration.

You can check out any time you like but you can never leave

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Wow, 25 points (0.00 / 0)
I knew the age gap was growing, but I didn't think it was that big. 58-31. Wow.

California is already an immigrant dominated state with a minority majority. I imagine voting patterns will catch up one of these days.

I think?


It's huge (8.00 / 1)
This is an informal poll, but I queried my 60 students last week about their partisan identification, whether they plan to vote this fall, and who they'd vote for. They were split 50-50 between Democratic and DTS, but over 80% said they planned to vote in November and for Democrats.

58-31 is a sensible outcome for a statewide poll. These are encouraging numbers and suggest strong opportunities for Democrats this fall. But I would hesitate to suggest this means our future is bright. These young people have a tendency to swing independent/DTS, so Dems are going to have to work to earn their loyalties.

More importantly, these young voters, like any other voter, can be discouraged from voting. To secure this huge population of young Democrats for the future Democratic politicians and party establishment types need to ensure that the needs of these young voters are attended to. Part of that requires an all-out fight to prevent education cuts from happening, but it also requires action on the other major issues young voters face - a lack of good jobs that pay a sustainable wage, and a lack of affordable health care.

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But that's in Monterey, right? (0.00 / 0)
I asked someone from my hometown of Palos Verdes, and was told that in 2006, they also did a mock poll, and the Republican-Democratic split was still 60%-40%.

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Right (0.00 / 0)
That was my point, that 58-31 was a sensible statewide number, once you factor in places like Palos Verdes, southern Orange County, Fresno, etc. Monterey leans left - not as much as Santa Cruz, but we do alright for ourselves. At a forum for Democratic assembly candidates the main issue was who would achieve single-payer the quickest...god I love living here...

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how high the wave? (8.00 / 1)
a few years ago PPIC did a roundtable about CA's changing demographics and the implications on the electoral landscape.  one of the major findings was that massive disconnect between the wants of the people who live here and those of those who vote.  the upshot is that the old, white  california maintains an electoral lock on the state because the the majority minority california doesn't have the numbers to overcome the structural impediments to raising the revenues required to provide and maintain the levels of service the latter group wants.  there's a major disconnect between what the population wants and what the electorate grants

one of the things that it may be good for us progressives to think about is whether we can use the whole redistricting debate to our advantage.  right now CA Dems maintain a pretty sizeable registration advantage.  the problem is that we're generally penned into districts that can be reliably to vote for one party or another.  while on the surface that seems good for Dems - especially progressives who can get elected in deep blue districts, the problem is that it yields enough Repug districts so that getting over the 2/3 revenue hurdle is impossible.  no republican will get (re)elected from a deep red district by supporting higher taxes.

which leads me to the point that perhaps the focus on beating back redistricting is missing the forest for the trees.  after all we're winning the argument except for a shrinking share of the electorate.  wouldn't we better off by moving some of the people already predisposed to our worldview into the deep red districts and shaking this up just enough to start changing the debate in these districts?


Along those lines... (0.00 / 0)
This story from San Diego's North County Times enforces the upward trend of the graph.

145K new foreign-born voters in San Diego County, I like those numbers.


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