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Honesty, Integrity & Accountability. Huh.

by: babaloo

Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 14:37:21 PM PDT


(The DCCC announced that they were pleased with McNerney, is this what they have been pushing him to do? - promoted by Julia Rosen)

Back in 2006, when Jerry McNerney was running for Congress in CA-11, he would appear at forums, meetings and fundraisers where he would often be called upon to speak. One of the lines he used often, usually to thundering applause, was "I am a Barbara Boxer Democrat!"  Never once did he say, "I am a Dennis Cardoza Democrat!" I suspect his audiences might have reacted a little more coolly if he had.

And yet his stance on the issues to date has more closely mirrored that of Rep. Dennis Cardoza (CA-18), who is well known for his conservative Blue Dog associations. Why is McNerney making this rightward shift?

Well, I've given McNerney the benefit of the doubt over the last seven months, preferring to think that he was getting bad advice from his Chief of Staff, Angela Kouters. I figured that Kouters, who is young, ambitious, inexperienced and thoroughly under the influence of  Inside-the-Beltway conventional wisdom, was urging him to take so-called "moderate" positions in an attempt to pander to the DC perception of conservative CA-11 residents.

But it appears that I may have been mistaken. Unfortunately, the news today has brought two separate stories which have led me to the difficult conclusion that Jerry McNerney is not the man he appeared to be. That is to say, it sure seems like he duped many of his strongest supporters.

See why on the flip...

babaloo :: Honesty, Integrity & Accountability. Huh.
After voting last Thursday against the Hinchey amendment to H.R. 3093, an amendment that would have prevented federal prosecution for medical marijuana usage in the twelve states which have legalized it, he offered this explanation in today's Sacramento Bee:

McNerney insists he is not a Pelosi clone. Last week, for example, he broke ranks with most California Democrats by voting against an amendment to ban use of federal money to prosecute growers of medicinal marijuana.

"I'm a moderate," he said.

Well, I hate to break it to the Congressman, but that was not a "moderate" vote. The amendment was co-sponsored by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (CA-46) -- yes, you heard me. Jerry McNerney is to the right of Crazy Dana Rohrabacher. If McNerney had bothered to look at the  Field poll done back in 2004, he would realize that Californians statewide support the legalization of medical marijuana by close to a three-quarters majority. Even two-thirds of Republicans support it. Here's a newsflash to Jerry McNerney. When only 24% of the residents of your state support your position, it's not moderate. It's extreme… extreme right-wing.

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But almost as bad as his Hinchey vote is the news coming from Germany today. Rep. McNerney led a bi-partisan delegation of Congressional freshmen to Iraq over the weekend. On his way home from Iraq, McNerney participated in a conference call with reporters during a layover.

From the Stockton Record:

[McNerney] said his conversations convinced him that, at least in Ramadi, the U.S. military was indeed making progress. […]

McNerney said he will be more likely to listen to those who want more time in Iraq.

"If anything, I'm more willing to participate in a give-and-take with that viewpoint than I was before," he said.

Congress is scheduled to vote on a major defense bill this week that may contain a provision creating a timetable for withdrawal of troops.

From USA Today:

McNerney, the California congressman, also said he saw signs of progress in Ramadi and was impressed by Petraeus, who argued in favor of giving President Bush's troop surge strategy time to work.

McNerney said he still favors a timeline to get troops out of Iraq -- something House leaders may bring to the floor again this week as part of a defense spending bill -- but is open to crafting it in a way more favorable to generals' wishes.

"As long as we start at a certain date I'd be willing to be a little more flexible in terms of when it might end," McNerney said.

From Josh Richman:

Arriving in Baghdad on a C-130 from Kuwait, he met first with officials including Gen. David Petraeus, whom he said is working very hard and is "very optimistic about what's happening in the conflict… He's concerned about being given enough rope to finish the job here." […]

"We need to put a timetable out there, it needs to make sense," McNerney added -- a plan to bring the troops home, so that the Iraqi government is compelled to unite and take over the task of securing the country. "I think we can work to find a way forward that would be bipartisan, that would accomodate the achievements they have had in the last four or five months."

And from the Contra Costa Times:

Leading the delegation was Rep. Jerry McNerney, D-Calif., who said he saw signs of progress in Ramadi in Anbar province and was impressed by Gen. David Petraeus, President Bush's top military commander in Iraq, who argued in favor of giving Bush's troop surge strategy time to work.

McNerney said he still favors a timeline to get troops out of Iraq -- something House leaders may bring to the floor again this week as part of a defense spending bill -- but is open to being flexible "in terms of when it might end."


[Update] And in a later AP story from the Fresno Bee:

"I'm more willing to work with finding a way forward to accommodate what the generals are saying," McNerney told reporters Monday during a conference call from Germany on his way back to the U.S.

I have a hard time figuring out how Jerry McNerney's latest words and deeds have anything to do with being a "Barbara Boxer Democrat." I know, I know, it's better than Richard Pombo. But is this what we all really put our sweat and blood into? How has the reality of Congressman Jerry McNerney differed from what we might have expected from his primary opponent, the DLC-anointed Steve Filson? How do we, as a progressive movement, demand accountability from the candidates that we support? When they turn their backs on us and our issues, do we just shrug our shoulders and settle for scraps? I'm genuinely at a loss. What do you think?

Cross posted at The Progressive Connection

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Wow. (6.50 / 2)
Well, this really sucks. All that work, the hopes of getting a real Democrat in office to replace Pombo - not a DLC-approved clone like Steve Filson, but someone much more authentic, more certain to cut through the usual BS and fight for good causes. I doubt anyone expected he'd be the next Ron Dellums, but neither did anyone expect he'd be giving cover to Bush like this.

He may be getting bad advice - but he also doesn't have to listen to it. Ugh.

You can check out any time you like but you can never leave


He's Representing His District (0.00 / 0)
These votes aren't reflective of the massive improvement this Congressman has been over Richard Pombo. He shouldn't, nor should you expect him, to be voting with the netroots community 100 percent of the time.

Look at the forest folks, not the trees. On the issues that matter, he's on our side.


A complete misreading of the situation (7.14 / 7)
Do voters in Pleasanton, Tracy, and Modesto think this war ought to continue? Their vote for McNerney suggested their answer was a clear "no." So why is McNerney out there supporting the Republican spin (the "we're seeing improvement, can't leave immediately [nobody says we should], wait for Petraeus, do what he says" argument).

The netroots community does not accept the notion that just because a Dem is not Republican, they're someone we should support. You should know that by now - it's a core tenet of all we've been doing these last 5 years, after having been repeatedly sold out by Democrats who turn to us in our anger and say "well what are you gonna do, vote for a Republican?" The entire netroots movement is about finding a way out of that situation that doesn't go down the path of Naderism nor accept indefensible behavior by Dems (like voting for the war, or caving to GOP budget demands).

We don't expect 100% fealty, but, this action on the Iraq War is a massive turnabout. If he's supporting Bush on this, he's not even 50% on our side, Iraq is that important. It is THE issue that matters, at least for anybody in the Congress.

You can check out any time you like but you can never leave


[ Parent ]
Thanks, Robert (7.25 / 8)
You stated it better than I possibly could have.

The thing that bothers me the most about the situation is that SacGuy's argument fails on its face. If we were to accept his political wisdom, we would believe that McNerney must take these positions to be reelected. But the truth is that these stances are politically out of touch with CA-11. McNerney is, if you will, pandering to Godot.

All of the polling tells us that voters in CA-11 want our soldiers out of Iraq and they do not want federal prosecutions for legalized medicinal marijuana. So these positions offer McNerney no political gain that I can see -- unless he truly doesn't understand his own district.


[ Parent ]
sacguys' memes are the same sort of advice (8.00 / 5)
that led all the smart money to oppose mcnerney because "the district is too conservative for anyone but a DINO buddy of ellen tauscher."

oops.

not buying it again.


[ Parent ]
I find this diary hard to read (0.00 / 0)
I know that a lot of people are pissed off with Jerry right now.  A few points.

First, those of us who came from outside the district did not elect Jerry to Congress.  The people of the 11th district did. We don't own the guy. Period.

Second, the guy had the balls and the dedication to run for the seat, twice.  He spent a great deal of his own money.  Like anyone who runs for office nowadays, he spent months in a small room calling strangers, asking them for money.  Any of you who actually know him will agree that for somebody as introverted as Jerry McNerney, this had to be hell.

Third, he did this out of a sense of duty, and I don't think he has an overly grand view of himself, unlike many people who run for Congress, who are a fairly narcissistic bunch.

The district is not that liberal, he does not have a lot of political experience, and he's learning things as he goes.  He's going to screw certain things up.

I don't think I know babaloo, but frankly, I think he's being a horse's ass.

There's time yet to talk about finding an alternative candidate.  My sense, frankly, is that if you beat Jerry McNerney, one of the happiest people to have him out of Congress will be... Jerry McNerney.

Cut the guy some slack.  He's earned it.


[ Parent ]
it's not unreasonable (8.00 / 2)
to ask the questions babaloo asked. Reread the last paragraph. Those are legitimate questions. No one saying McNerney is a bad person. No one (that I noticed) is saying we should work against him and find a primary challenger. And certainly no one here said anyone owns him. That's ridiculous.

When someone's words and votes are in opposition to what my impression was of how they'd act once elected, I'm going to question and re-evaluate the degree of support I've given and will give in the future. Period. That's the rational thing to do. I'm not going to avoid asking hard questions out of fear of looking like a "horse's ass".

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't look at this like I was fooled by McNerney...it makes me look at MYSELF, and why I chose to give him support and to wonder what I'd do different in the future. It also makes me think about the concept of netroots candidates in general, and some of the bandwagoneering that goes on around it. To me, this isn't completely about Jerry, but about candidates in general. No one  votes exactly as they implied they would, once they're elected. There's all kinds of variables that influence votes. I don't think anyone here is ignorant about that. But, when someone votes and speaks in unexpected ways, I'm going to question it. If I can't do that, I might as well park my butt on the couch, and get back to those reruns of Law and Order. If you want to be involved, you have to be able to ask hard questions. To do otherwise would be self-defeating.


[ Parent ]
You should question him on those votes (0.00 / 0)
Certainly, you should question McNerney's Iraq votes, and some of his recent statements.  And I agree with Robert: I think that McNerney is getting the politics wrong as well.  Here, I suspect that he's adjusting to public life, and that he's getting a lot of different advice from a lot of different people, including, don't forget, his constituents.  I don't envy the guy.

That's said, when I see 3 diaries on one congressman in one day (maybe 2 days; but I saw them at the same time on the FP), at some point, I have to ask why that is. Even Ellen Tauscher doesn't get that kind of a beating around here, and she deserves it.  And it's clear to me that some of what I'm seeing, for lack of a better word, is rage at the guy for "betraying" the people who him there.  Not all of it. But certainly, some people.


[ Parent ]
Not to be a horse's ass or anything, but... (0.00 / 0)
It was two diaries over a period of four days. One was written on Friday and dealt purely with the Hinchey amendment vote the day before, and the other one was written on Monday, immediately after McNerney held a conference call with reporters, and focused primarily on his comments about Iraq. I thought both issues would be of interest to a netroots community that worked very hard to get him elected last year.

Look, it's clear you like McNerney; you think he's a nice guy. And based simply on that, you're willing to overlook the disparity between his campaign words and his Congressional deeds. I'm not. If I'm going to knock myself out working to support a candidate, I expect him to walk his talk. I almost hate to say it, but a lot of Republicans made the same excuses for George Bush that you're making for Jerry McNerney -- they thought he truly was a great guy, and if he was doing really nasty stuff, well, you know, just give him time, he'll come around. It's a great defense mechanism -- always works well for ostriches, I've heard.


[ Parent ]
Old Chinese saying (4.00 / 1)
There's an old Chinese saying, that translates as "It is better to be the head of a chicken than the tail of an ox."

While I do think Jerry's a very decent guy, that's not why I'm so annoyed about your diaries.  Here's what annoys me: first, while I assume you have the sweat equity to back up your claim that you worked your ass off, so did a lot of people.  They had to.  Pombo was very well entrenched, and it took that kind of effort.  And the district has partisan index that isn't as Republican as it used to be, but is still redder than blue.  It's not like Barbara Lee's district in Berkeley.  Hell, it isn't even like Ellen Tauscher's district. It's Richard Pombo's former district, and people voted for Jerry for a variety of reasons.  Those people are his constituents.  Not you.  Not me.  Even if we did volunteer, donate labor and materials, or money.  Even if we worked our asses off.

Keeping this district Democratic would challenge an experienced politician, much less a beginner who decided to run mostly out of a sense of duty.  And he will need help to keep it Democratic.  Even if he's turning out to be more cautious than many of us hoped.  Or that he's made some bad votes, frankly.

If thinking that keeping this seat and working to make that happen makes me an ostrich, well it does.  But I'd rather be the head of an ostrich, than, well, a horse's ass.



[ Parent ]
What makes you think Babaloo doesn't understand the district? (0.00 / 0)
Babaloo doesn't only have the "sweat equity" to talk about McNerney, she has the experience in the district to speak about these things with a lot of credibility.  She still does work in the district.  She still talks to grassroots activists in the district.  She's not just giving her opinion about these things.  In large part what she's saying mirrors the sentiment of McNerney's constituents.  Even the reporters in the district respect her opinion as a reflection of the activist base in CD-11. 

I think it's incredibly condescending to talk to Babaloo, who has written more about CD-11 than anyone else in the progressive blogosphere, as if she needs to be schooled about the differences between CD-11 and CD-10 or CD-09.  You're certainly entitled to disagree with her analysis.  But get off your high horse.  Not all opinions are equal.  You have a lot of work to do to convince me that you even understand the district on a real level instead of just the common talking points people spout when looking at the race.  Everyone knows what CD-11 is not. Babaloo actually knows what CD-11 is, in an affirmative way.  She understands the players and the internal dynamics.  You can ignore her if you want.  But she has a track record that you can't ignore. 


[ Parent ]
High Horse? (0.00 / 0)
To which I say, neigh.

Wasn't doubting her commitment, or the amount of work she did. And I don't doubt there are activists inside the district who agree with her.

But the progressive blogosphere was only one ring in a multi-ring circus.  She may not (and from what she writes, either doesn't know or doesn't care) about what happened in those other rings.  Even if she thinks all of them were full of clowns, as she apparently does.

But there were a lot of networks and groups involved in getting Jerry elected.  I don't know if babaloo knew the people who worked to bring in church groups inside the district, or worked in the eastern part of the district to register and talk to Latino voters.  I do.  I didn't do any door knocking, but I know the people from Santa Cruz who arranged for the car pooling to get people out to the Defenders Of Wildlife events each Saturday.  And I spent enough time in the office in Dublin (I helped them get their phones working, and getting their computers networked) that I knew pretty much the whole crew there.  And a good friend of mine (who runs our local DFA meetings) worked for Jerry doing media and communications strategy stuff.

I'm not saying this to show I did anything special.  I only did what perhaps another thousand people did.  But I do think I followed the campaign closely, spoke frequently with people who knew what polling looked like, and I spent time with volunteers who had very different motivations and hopes for the campaign and for removing Pombo.

I'm not saying I have a fuller picture than she does.  But I am saying I have a different one.


[ Parent ]
With all due respect (8.00 / 4)
You get a good forest by planting and nurturing the right trees.

[ Parent ]
gotta disagree (7.33 / 6)
You seem to be coming at it from where people in DC perceive the voters to be, not where they are. And furthermore, the voters will support those with whom they disagree if they believe the politician is acting out of conviction. Likewise, voters have no respect for politicians who appear to pander in the DLC way.

If you're assumptions were legitimate, Joe Lieberman would have been the Democratic nominee in 2004 instead of getting kicked out of the Party in 2006 (which was a cycle where Dems should have lost seats by the insider reasoning).

Democrats need to be proud, the problem with McNerney is that he seems to be ashamed to be a progressive. Ironically, his tilt to the right is actually doing more political harm than good.

Twitter: @BobBrigham


[ Parent ]
Once again (8.00 / 5)
do you have anything more to offer than "shut up, sit down, open your wallets, and remember that the Republicans are crazy"?

If not, I'll save you the time and just post that periodically, so we all know the institutional position.


[ Parent ]
The issues that matter? (7.40 / 5)
Like, um, Iraq? This is THE issue that matters. He was not elected to help cheer-lead this disaster.

I think?

[ Parent ]
yeah, those CA-11 voters are all reactionaries (7.00 / 6)
give me a break, the district voted mcnerney into office in the first place, and he wasn't running on prolonging the war and opposing medical marijuana.

heck, 11 years ago when prop. 215 was passed, before that district had seen the influx of bay area commuters, san joaquin county voted no only by a 55-45 margin, while alameda and contra costa counties went yes by 70-30 and 65-38, respectively. while the gerrymandering of the 11th in the '01 map might push those numbers a bit more to the right, it is not a super-reactionary district.

i'll bet if anyone bothered to poll the valley districts instead of just toss around assumptions about "inland voters," that mcnerney would be on the right of well over a majority of his constituents on both of these issues, and far to the right of the people who sent him to DC. he's not triangulating to accomodate voters in the 11th, he's sucking up to the big boys in DC who think they're smarter than all us peons.

these votes matter to the sons and daughters of the 11th who are fighting and dying in the senseless clusterfuck that is iraq while the politicians dick around and show off for the DC beltway cocktail parties. these votes matter to the cancer and AIDS patients in the 11th who can't keep their chemo medicines down because of the nausea. it might seem like just another political game to you, but these issues govern the lives and deaths of a hell of a lot of people, in the 11th and out of it.


[ Parent ]
To stray a bit from the topic (8.00 / 1)
How do we get this kind of coverage for 52 other members of California's delegation?

Dedicated people, preferably in-district (8.00 / 1)
who are willing to blog regularly. Not that easy to come by.

[ Parent ]
Well yeah (8.00 / 1)
But if I can inspire just ONE lurker...

[ Parent ]
McNerney (0.00 / 0)
This is traditional for candidates elected to office for better or worse.  Some people call it maturing, others call it selling out.  If you want a good example of the process I would recommend Bill Hillsman's book "Run the other way" for the example of how the system worked on Paul Wellstone to convince him to compromise on a lot of his views.

Not necessarily true (6.00 / 2)
There are plenty of progressive Democrats still in Congress who haven't had to tack rightward after their election. I think you're taking situations that come about for specific reasons, the product of human decisions, and abstracting them to be some sort of process that we can't fight. I don't think it works that way at all.

You can check out any time you like but you can never leave

[ Parent ]
Wow (8.00 / 2)
Is that the "everyone gets more conservative as they age" speech?  Did you just tell me I'll understand when I'm older?

[ Parent ]
It was, with a dollop of (8.00 / 2)
"it's a more complex world than you simple village folk can possibly understand."

[ Parent ]
Not for me (8.00 / 1)
I'm a hell of a lot more radical now.

You think I learned my econ from my Marxist professors?  Not.

No, it's the U of Chicago guys that taught me.  Ain't no body like a proper apostate.


[ Parent ]
I also got more liberal as I got older. (0.00 / 0)
I think working for a living helped.

[ Parent ]
I personally did (0.00 / 0)
I may have gotten more liberal on a few things, but definitely as a whole, I got more conservative as I got older

I still remember a conversation I had with someone who tends to vote Democrat but isn't what I would call a "liberal Democrat," back like 4 years ago or so. I was very liberal, and he saw it.

He ended up telling me, "as you get older, you will become less liberal." I said, "okay, but I'm not gonna turn to the right." He said, "no, you won't necessarily turn to the right, but you will be more to the center." That has become a prophecy fulfilled

The Silent Consensus


[ Parent ]
Changing attitudes is a health thing (0.00 / 0)
I've always like Socrates' line from The Apology:

"The unexamined life is not worth living".

We learn things, we gain experience of the world.  These are good things.


[ Parent ]
There's more to discuss here I think (0.00 / 0)
Bowers picked up on this issue at OpenLeft and this was my reaction there as well.  While the importance of the Iraq War cannot be overstated, the bigger issue I think is whether this is an indication of McNerney turning against or moving away from the importance of the grassroots in leading the party.  I'm not sure that this is an indication of him turning into an institutionalist (it's possible, but I don't think it's a given) so much as voting the wrong way.  If it reaches the point where he's undermining the ability of the rank and file to have voices heard, that's a much bigger issue long-term.

Interesting to note also (8.00 / 2)
That in the past week and a half, McNerney's Progressive Punch score has, while moving to the right, passed Waxman, Farr, Napolitano, Capps, Eshoo, Lantos, Berman, Lofgren, Davis and Schiff (in that order) among the CA Congressional delegation. Granted these numbers are fluid, but that's a quick swing.

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