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Jerry McNerney Votes with Bush Enablers on Iraq

by: Bob Brigham

Thu May 10, 2007 at 14:58:55 PM PDT


Yesterday, I received two letters from Congressman McNerney thanking me for two separate contributions. But those will probably be my last. Pombo isn't running and McNerney just voted to stay in Iraq. When you vote worse than Ellen Tauscher on the most important issue of the day, I really don't see how I can have respect for anything else you do. I think Ezra explained this concept well:

But not all issues are created equal. In the opinion of the netroots, if you opposed eliminating dividend taxation and drilling in ANWR but enthusiastically supported the war in Iraq--and appear incapable of really repenting or learning from that error--you are not 66 percent liberal and thus an ally; you were and are wrong on the preeminent issue of our time.

This should have been an easy yea vote, for the life of me I can't understand why McNerney screwed up.

UPDATE: Stoller says, "That's a pretty good number of progressives, and a good showing. And now we have people on the record for or against the war." Indeed.

UPDATE II: More Stoller:

Atrios has a list of freshmen Dems who voted against this. [...] Most of the new Dems backed the amendment, including every winner on the netroots page except McNerney (who is losing his base).

Stoller might be right about McNerney losing his base.

Bob Brigham :: Jerry McNerney Votes with Bush Enablers on Iraq
UPDATE III: The reaction on the big blogs. Master Jack at Mydd:

I donated to McNerney last fall.

  I didn't donate to him so he could go to Congress and be a wuss.

  I think I'll donate elsewhere next year.

ab initio at Daily Kos:

Now we know that there are 59 Dems that don't want to end the occupation of Iraq!

I guess 2008 will be coming rolling and I'll be keeping this vote in mind. I am particularly disappointed in Mcnerney and Roriguez who I provided campaign dollars.

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Yeah (0.00 / 0)
That's... um... troubling.

it was such an easy vote (6.50 / 2)
It makes 100% sense, the public wants it, and yet he voted against it???

Twitter: @BobBrigham

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I'll let him explain himself (0.00 / 0)
But I doubt I'll be impressed.

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I don't even care (0.00 / 0)
It is like the mitigating circumstances plea during sentencing, the verdict is already in and the rest is just talk.

Twitter: @BobBrigham

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I agree (0.00 / 0)
But the spin on it is relevant in lesser ways.

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The day that I thought would never arrive (8.00 / 1)
Yup, I now think, at this moment, that I have more respect for Ellen Tauscher than for Jerry McNerney.  At least Tauscher voted the right way on an issue that matters.  And for that, I say thank you Ms. Tauscher.  These things matter.

As for McNerney, I am profoundly disappointed. I'm not sure what he's thinking here, but it can't be with his conscience.  While we were well aware this was not going to pass, it is so disheartening to see someone who you worked so hard for be so wrong-headed in the name of wrong-headed electoral politics.  Yes, Rep. McNerney, the people of CA-11 want us out of Iraq too.

I want to hear what he has to say for himself, and it better be good. I still hope that we can bring him back from this precipice of blue-dogginess.  I'm sure Ms. Tauscher will disappoint me once again, and McNerney might be able to restore himself to a place of higher esteem than Ms. Tauscher.  But it will never be the same. I can't do those precinct walks in Danville, getting those doors slammed in my face, for a man who sold out the grassroots like this.

Please, Jerry, explain, give us something.  WTF were you thinking?

I think?


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Probably "TWO MORE YEARS!" (0.00 / 0)
I'm sure that's what his political advisors were screaming at him. They probably told him that the 11th is still a GOP-leaning district, and that he needs to break from the Democratic leadership more often and "act more moderate" to be more in touch with the district. Now I'M NOT SAYING THIS TO JUSTIFY HIS VOTE... I'm just brainstorming on why McNerney voted the way he did today.

Fear can be a powerful motivator, and fear can cause people to do crazy things. McNerney was probably just afraid. He's afraid of losing his seat next year, so he doesn't want to appear too "left wing" in a moderate-conservative district.

I guess the CA-11 activists need to show that ending the Iraq War isn't a "left wing issue"... It's something that MOST OF THE NATION wants.

Had enough of the "red county" right-wing crazy-talk bulls***? Well, then come and visit us at The Liberal OC! Yes, there ARE liberals in The OC! : )


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And I seem to recall (0.00 / 0)
Tauscher and her defenders saying that her district was really centrist, and wouldn't tolerate her swinging too far left.  Oddly, this vote kinda puts the lie to that talking point (which may have been true a few cycles ago, but is no longer).

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I'm curious (0.00 / 0)
to hear his reasoning, and to see how he votes on the other bill that releases partial funding. Isn't that today too?

on the floor now (0.00 / 0)
You can follow here.

Twitter: @BobBrigham

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Yes (0.00 / 0)
I agree.  I think that McNerney needs to explain himself here.  I am extremely disappointed in his vote today.

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Charlie Brown??? (0.00 / 0)
I, too am disappointed in McNerney.  The two districts (McNerney's and Doolittle's) may be about the same in terms of conservatives and right wingers.  I would guess that, if elected, Charlie Brown will probably also vote conservative on a lot of matters.


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Doolittle just voted to keep Brown's kid in Iraq (0.00 / 0)
For some reason I have more faith in the resolve behind the statement when Charlie Brown says he wants to end the war.

Twitter: @BobBrigham

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Brown (0.00 / 0)
would have voted Yes today, no doubt about it.

CA-11 is less Republican than CA-04.


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I was concerned about my blue dog congressman (0.00 / 0)
and he ended up voting for it. didn't know the one I needed to be concerned about was McNerney. sigh. but I must say, for me, while it's disappointing, it's not dealbreaking. def curious to hear his reasoning.

This is a first step, but a bad trip up by McNerney et al. (0.00 / 0)
There is a record that includes the Speaker of the House that specifies it is time to end this catastrophe.  Nay votes will be used as blunt instruments in Nov. 2008 in all competitive districts.

I believe that there was no good reason for any Dem to vote nay; a similar bill is unlikely to pass in the Senate (thanks again, LIEberman) which would have given political cover to all Yes votes.  Even if it did pass bicamerally, a veto proof majority doesn't exist which would have been a terrific tool for the Dems in '08.

But let's not lose sight of the most important loss today:

More of our sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, moms and dads to the grinder in Iraq.  Not to mention the Iraqis who just want it to end.


171 (0.00 / 0)
is an outstanding number. 

I too am disappointed in Rep. McNerney, and I hope that he would present his case for voting against a fully funded withdrawal from the occupation of Iraq on this site.  This community has done a lot for Rep. McNerney, and I would like to think that we rate an explanation.


let's not lose sight of one important thing: 171 (8.00 / 1)
mcjoan:

The Out of Iraq caucus just swelled to 171!

jane:

There were 171 ayes (more than expected) and now know were to target pressure for future votes.

howie:

To be honest, I hardly expected such a strong show of support-- at least not from cowardly members of Congress-- for Jim McGovern's H.R. 2237. 171 yes votes was pretty damn impressive.


way out of context on McNerney (0.00 / 0)
mcjoan tried to get as many calls as possible to McNerney to talk sense into him.

Jane's next sentence read, "Some very disappointing "nays" to say the least."

And Howie used the term "Rubber Stamps" in the headline and had the following to say about McNerney:

I've been trying to figure out which Democrats betrayed us and this is the list I've put together so far: [...]

McNerney (sigh... electoral whore)



Twitter: @BobBrigham

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I know (0.00 / 0)
my point was just not to forget the positive. you chose selective blog excerpts in your updates, so I did the same. but yes, of course everyone's pissed about McNerney. no doubt.

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Really a disgusting vote (0.00 / 0)
I passed out his campaign lit in Pombo's hometown. Lots of stuff about how his son in the military said he needed to get into office because of the war. Perhaps no explicit promise to defund it, but nobody was fooled into thinking he thought Iraq was a good thing. What is the guy thinking? He ran against the war last time. It's gonna be a hell of a lot easier to run against an even more catastrophic losing enterprise next time.

Has he lost his marbles and believes in Bush's "progress"? Rhetorical excess there. :-)

Can It Happen Here?


Not happy with this vote, but glad I supported McNerney (8.00 / 1)
I'm not at all happy with this particular vote, but I'm still glad I supported McNerney during the last election.  I don't like him as much as, say, Anna Eshoo, but he's WAY better than Pombo was.

I'll have to take a look at where things stand when he gets closer to election day before I think about making another donation to the McNerney campaign.  I may end up holding my nose and donating, simply because his opponent is an order of magnitude worse.

A Rough & Tumble reader.


Yes, let's keep this in perspective... (8.00 / 1)
Yes, I don't know what the hell was in McNerney's head today, but I'd still take him over Pombo ANY DAY...
And I'd still prefer him over some faux-moderate loser like Guy Houston. If McNerney needs more help next year, I MIGHT (key word here) help him if he looks like he's in danger.

Otherwise, I was just planning to focus on our pickup opportunities in SoCal, and specifically OC, (CA-42, CA-46) anyways.

Had enough of the "red county" right-wing crazy-talk bulls***? Well, then come and visit us at The Liberal OC! Yes, there ARE liberals in The OC! : )


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The 11th isn't much redder than my district... (0.00 / 0)
And my fabulous Congresswoman still voted "YEA" on this one. Loretta voted to end the war. Hmmm, so why didn't McNerney? Bush only got 54% in the 11th in 2004, while he carried the 47th with 50%. The two districts aren't THAT CONSERVATIVE, and I don't think a majority in EITHER DISTRICT wants any more of this war.

Strange things happen in DC.

Had enough of the "red county" right-wing crazy-talk bulls***? Well, then come and visit us at The Liberal OC! Yes, there ARE liberals in The OC! : )


Well, your district is actually substantially bluer (8.00 / 1)
Loretta Sanchez's district (CA-47) is D+5, CA-11 is R+3. That 8 point swing is pretty substantial.  On the other hand, props go out to the Loretta, for finally shaking off the blue-doggy collar that Steny Hoyer shackled on her. 

I think?

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Remember the conservative Dems... (0.00 / 0)
Many of the "Democrats" in Central Orange County are "Reagan Democrats" who sometimes vote for Republicans if the Democratic candidates are seen as too "tax-and-spend liberal". That's why Bush narrowly won the 47th in 2004. However yes, our numbers are going up in Central OC again, and I'm fairly confident that our Democratic candidate will carry the 47th next year.

And yes, HORRAY FOR LORETTA for doing the right thing! I just love my fabulous Congresswoman. ; )

Had enough of the "red county" right-wing crazy-talk bulls***? Well, then come and visit us at The Liberal OC! Yes, there ARE liberals in The OC! : )


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Turnout (0.00 / 0)
It's the name of the game. Get those new citizens to votem in SoCal, and the Dem will carry almost all of the districts.

I think?

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wasn't unique to Jerry (0.00 / 0)
This is in no way a justification, but quite a few freshman Congresscritters voted against this amendment.  The CW is still that they have to be protected in their first re-election battle.  I completely disagree, but it's clearly what was happening.

Giffords
McNerney
Mahoney
Donnelly
Ellsworth
Hill
Boyda
Shuler
Wilson
Space
Altmire
Carney
Lampson
Rodriguez
Mitchell

Some, like Patrick Murphy and Joe Sestak and Joe Courtney, did the right thing.  Even in competitive districts, Rep. McNerney.


That (0.00 / 0)
is a list of well known conservative freshman.  It is strange company for McNerney to be in.

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every winning netroots candidate (0.00 / 0)
was on the right side except for McNerney.

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indeed (0.00 / 0)
and that was not an accident, IMO. the netroot disinterest in actual lefty freshman - shea-porter, loebsack, cohen in TN - was telling.netroot-endorsed candidates tend to look very similar to simon rosenberg's NDN choices.

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you misconstrued (0.00 / 0)
when I said right side I meant "correct" as in "voting for withdrawal."  Murphy, Sestak, Joe Courtney, Tim Walz, Paul Hodes - they all voted for withdrawal.  Jerry didn't.

I don't disagree about Shea-Porter and Loebsack and your general point (Cohen was a safe seat after the primary).


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Boyda told the DCCC to take a hike (0.00 / 0)
Nancy Boyda took a strong stance against the war in her campaign, and produced her own TV ads (one of them had a cat walking over her desk while she talked.)  She does represent a very conservative district in Kansas.

A Washington Post story described her conflict in voting on bills to end the war:
http://www.washingto...

"...she is convinced that Congress must intervene to stop the war, but is fearful of the chaos that a quick U.S. pullout could prompt... "


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beware the DC DLC minders (0.00 / 0)
this stinks of steny hoyer and rahm emmanuel's crowd.

Funny (0.00 / 0)
thing is that Rahmbo was actually on the side of good today. Hoyer on the other hand...

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i am convinced they plan out who votes yea and nay (0.00 / 0)
as part of some BS strategery.

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Hoyer didn't Lead the Majority (0.00 / 0)
And Rahm wants every candidate to act like a wimp on foreign policy.

Twitter: @BobBrigham

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