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Third Term, Anyone?

by: David Dayen

Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 00:54:25 AM PST


Dan Walters makes a hell of a lot of sense about the real reason why the Governor is pushing this plan to move up the California primary.  He seems to think it has nothing to do with the primary itself, but about the other proposal being tossed about for that February 2008 ballot.

Schwarzenegger could legally seek a third term only if the term limits were to be modified, and lo and behold, he and legislators are talking about doing exactly that. While the public discussion of changing term limits has centered on legislators, there's no particular reason why loosening the limits on constitutional officers couldn't be part of any deal.

I think that Arnold's outsized ego just makes him want to be in the thick of the Presidential race, but this is an absolute side effect.  You can bet that if the term limits change for the legislators, they'll similarly change for the constitutional officers, and we won't get the opportunity to pick one but not the other.  It'll all get tied up in one big redistricting/term limit ball. 

Plus, this would give Republicans in the Congress until 2014 to amend the Constitution to allow foreign-born citizens to ascend to the Oval Office.  And I don't see Arnold wanting to be anywhere else but the Governor's mansion or the White House.

Walters ends the piece by calling this idea "possible but not probable," but I think he convinced me that it's actually likely.  Are you all ready for 8 more years of math-challenged budgets and more attempts to break up unions and universal health care plans that aren't universal or even health care?

Well, enjoy getting to see part of Barack Obama's head at some rally in late January!  That seems like a fair trade-off!

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There would be some constitutional questions (0.00 / 0)
Certainly redistricting and term limits will have to be separate props.  There are rules against having more than one issue in one proposition.  As for extending the executive's term, that might be an issue of two issues.  You could argue that the legislative term limits are a different issue than executive term limits, but that would be up to the judiciary to decide.

I think?

This was actually litigated (0.00 / 0)
in the recent LA City Council elections, where they tried to combine term limits and some kind of ethics legislation.  Though the city attorney (Delgadillo) opposed combining the two issues in the same measure (Measure R), the judge allowed it to go through, and it passed, and now City Council members can serve 12 years.

So I don't think combining issues is totally DOA.


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What I've been saying... (8.00 / 2)
This is what I've been saying all along. Moving the primary has nothing to do with any clout California could gain, because those who are in the know, know how elusive the clout it. And if it were just to give our state a say in the Presidential race, the entire primary would be moved so the state could save millions of dollars by not having three elections in ten months.

No, the real reason is the personal power plays, and now we can add power monger Schwarzenegger to the mix.


Ugh (0.00 / 0)
Not that I am surprised.  My response is up at the WC blog.

Walters actually ends up contradicting himself in the column.  At the top he says that it is part of the negotiations and then towards the end he says "if" Arnold was interested...  Color me confused.


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