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Death Penalty Headed to November Ballot

by: Brian Leubitz

Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 09:25:08 AM PST


Measure has broad support from unlikely sources

by Brian Leubitz

Since 2000, we have executed a total of 6 murderers in California=CA&sex_1=All&federal=All&foreigner=All&juvenile=All&volunteer=All]. The last of those was a 76 year old man in 2006. Since then, for a variety of reasons we have had no executions.  But meanwhile we have been warehousing criminals at the exorbitant costs for death row.  

And now it appears that the voters of California will have another decision point on the death penalty in November:

For the third time in 40 years, Californians will likely vote in November on the death penalty, a practice that has had at least as much impact on the state's politics as on its institutions of crime and punishment.

Opponents of capital punishment said Thursday they were submitting 800,000 signatures on petitions for an initiative to close the nation's largest Death Row, which has 725 condemned prisoners. The measure needs 504,760 valid signatures to make the ballot.

"California voters are ready to replace the death penalty with life in prison with no chance of parole," declared Jeanne Woodford, who oversaw four executions as warden of San Quentin State Prison. She now heads the anti-capital-punishment group Death Penalty Focus. ([SF Chronicle

Along with Woodford, the initiative also has the support of Ron Briggs, the author of the death penalty initiative in 1978 that reinstated the punishment. And as he said in the LA Times on Feb 12, the death penalty "simply does not work":

The ineffective legal beast created by California's death penalty laws costs taxpayers more than $100 million annually and ties up the lives of prosecutors and victims who could be moving on to other things.

We thought our 1978 initiative created a system to support victims' families. It didn't. The only people benefiting today are the lawyers who handle expensive appeals and the criminals who are able to keep their cases alive interminably.

The Briggs death penalty law in California simply does not work.

Perhaps this time we can take one step towards a humane state while also addressing our fiscal concerns.

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I am somewhat on the fence about this... (5.00 / 1)
But I have a question that has been posed to me that I would submit here.

If a child murderer rapist who admits to the crime and openly taunts his victims isn't morally worthy of execution.  Then every war fought, every form of government sanctioned violence ever could be cast as immoral.

From an ethical standpoint I feel if such a person committed such a crime against someone I loved, the only justice would be me and a crowbar alone with him for 15 minutes or so...  

Hi. I'm Charles.  I worked my way from homelessness to a business owner.  Be what you have it in you to be!


Worthy of Execution? (1.00 / 1)
While it may seem OK to execute somebody "obviously worthy" (or beat them with a crowbar) some of the most obvious convictions do get overturned because they are wrong.  When one is in the business of judicial execution, you don't want to make a mistake (unless, of course, you are Texan) so you understand why you have the appeals.  

It then comes down to a matter of cost.  And paying to put someone in jail for life is much less expensive.  (And, anecdotally, I think a much crueller punishment.  I'm originally from northern New Jersey before moving out here in 1990.  Three friends of mine died in the World Trade Center.  I'd have much preferred bin Laden had been captured, given a full, open, and fair trial (a better display of justice and lowering him from "political terrorist" to "common criminal") and then when found guilty, jailed, for life, in a small cell facing a rebuilt WTC.)


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Osama bin Laden (0.00 / 0)
This delusional notion bin Laden would have received a trial in the United States is absurd. He is not a head of state, he was a terrorist operating in a foreign country.

He was executed as an enemy combatant and rightly so.


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it shows profound lack of faith in the justice system (8.00 / 1)
to be so afraid of trying a criminal in a court of law, or a war criminal in a war crimes tribunal. mcveigh blew up a building and we gave him a fair trial, and justice was done. the nazis and imperial japanese army were tried in a war crimes tribunal, fairly, and justice was done.

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Does this help, cjackson3? (0.00 / 0)
In response to cjackson3's query- I can only explain how I think about the death penalty.  

We live in a society that sets its own rules of acceptable conduct.  Different societies set different rules.  What is allowed in Nigeria or Poland, may be a crime in the USA for example.  So a "death penalty" judgement in the US is a statement that the individual has so broken our societal rules that he/she loses the right to be a member of our society.  But that is different than "forfeit your life".  Our society did not bestow life upon us.  So it is not up to our society to remove life (via the death penalty).  I'm fine with the death penalty meaning that the person gets dropped off on a Pacific atoll that offers a balanced diet of edible vegetation and a fresh water source and is banned from ever setting foot on US soil again.  Removed from society- yes; put to death- no.

War are fought between different societies pursuing conflicting ambitions.  To me, that is very different than what I described above.  And war deaths are unfortunate and a negative for mankind, but not necessarily immoral.

Now, I never took philosophy or law or anything like that but that's how I see it (until I change my mind).


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Tookie (0.00 / 0)
Tookie Williams killed a couple and their daughter while holding up a convienience store

I don't know if the duaghter watched her parents die or if the mother watched her husband and daughter die

I was glad that Tookie was executed
was a rare case of Justice

Tree Frog Johnson raped and murdered an underage girl, Polly Klaas
I'd like to see him executed
Charlie Manson too

Don't end the Death Penalty
End the legal technicalities that prevent justice from being done

The Law is too important to be left to Judges


wow (5.00 / 1)
"The Law is too important to be left to Judges"

what other system would you have us use, violent revenge killings? mob lynchings?


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