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About that Realignment Plan...

by: Brian Leubitz

Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 16:20:55 PM PDT


Counties come looking for promised money

by Brian Leubitz

The transfer of prisoners and responsibilities from the state to the counties has already begun, but the money? Well, as they say, the check is in the mail.  The counties are beginning to look around anxiously:

California counties are lining up to secure millions of dollars in state funds to expand jails now that Gov. Jerry Brown's plan is under way to shift the incarceration of some felons from prisons to jails.

But while many county officials cheer the availability of $600 million in state funds to add more jail beds, opponents of prison expansion say building more incarceration space will discourage prosecutors, police and other public safety officials from seeking alternatives to lockups. (SF Gate)

Certainly some counties will at least consider construction of additional beds for their counties rather than triaging the prisoners and releasing and monitoring those that would be better served outside the traditional jail situation.  We have been looking at prisons as solely retribution rather than than how we can improve public safety for far too long.

But, in theory, there is this money, and it is awfully tempting for the counties to take the money and run.

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prison demographics (0.00 / 0)
Anyone know what the prison population looks like % wise?  what percent are violent, % drug possession intent to sell, % robbery, etc?

i found some numbers (5.00 / 2)
here.

from the chart, roughly 900,000 for violent crimes, 300,000 for drug crimes, 300,000 for property crimes, and 100,000 for "other" crimes. drug crimes have declined from a peak of 400,000 in 2000 following the passage of prop 36, which mandated treatment instead of incarceration for some drug crimes.

it unfortunately does not break the crimes down to a finer grain than that. it would  be interesting to see what % of the drug crimes are related to cannabis vs. meth or harder drugs, what sort of property crimes predominate, etc.


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It's too bad that (0.00 / 0)
The ones currently in Prison for Drug related Crimes couldn't fall under Prop 25 or something like It and be released from Prison, but only if they weren't convicted of some other crime of course, that would drop the prison population down and I'd think save the state more money.

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pricey (4.00 / 1)
I think its 40K per prisoner. Thats 12B for the drug offenders alone.

Often I've been thinking about policy objectives not policy.  So what's the point of prison? is it punishment? keep them away from us/keep us safe? change behavior?  I don't know if its meeting any of those objectives these days. Time to start thinking creatively on this.


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personally (5.00 / 2)
i see the point of prison being the isolation of some people from society, if they act in ways that make their danger to society outweighs the human cost of their confinement. it does not need to be cruel, but if you threaten those around you, you need a time out.

there's a huge need for reform/rehabilitation/penance in the justice system, but i'm not at all convinced that prison is the best way to accomplish that, in most cases, by any metric.

finally, noone should be tortured, raped, or assaulted in prison, no matter what heinous crime they commit.

the point of prison institutionally is a whole different deal, mostly a combination of sustaining itself as an industry and institution.  


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