Golden California? SEIU looks to elect moderate Republicans

HUH ? (0.00 / 0)

'Moderate Republicans' ?
Isn't THAT a contradiction in terms ??

Presumably, 'Moderate' Republicans only want to beat up illegal aliens, but let them stay in California

Maybe they only want oil companies to pollute Santa Barbar beaches a 'little' bit
They probably only want to invade Canada and annex Poland

'Moderate' Republicans ?
Are those the guys supporting Nude Gingrich ??

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by: frisco @ Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 19:17:04 PM UTC

a moderate republican (0.00 / 0)

Not all of us are supporting Frothy Mix Santorum or Nude Gingrich. My top choices are Fred Karger and Gary Johnson.

As we as moderate Republicans do recognize that tax cuts are not exactly salvation, and could cause problems.

As moderate Republicans we hold divergent views on the drug war, LGBT equality and abortion.

As moderate Republicans we recognize that big business and labor unions can be both the problem and the solution.

I do want clean air and water, but I do not want severe economic shock for compliance. Businesses are not stupid, many of them are fleeing California because the cost of compliance for AB 32 is hurting us big time. If we do not have jobs and industry then how will we get the revenue? When we drive one of our larger employers like Chevron out of our state then what will we do next?

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by: mmunson @ Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 21:09:50 PM UTC

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please name the businesses fleeing the state (0.00 / 0)

and explain how exactly chevron could move out of california, seeing as the ports, markets, and oilfields are located in california and cannot be moved somewhere else.

it's also not a terribly large employer, all things considered, only #44 out of the top 50, with 5,000 employees. by contrast, the top 10 employers employ between 13,721 (UC berkeley) and 42,951 (32nd street naval station).

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by: wu ming @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 at 04:44:20 AM UTC

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actual list of companies (0.00 / 0)

http://waltermooresays.blogspo...

A long list of companies choosing other states instead of California to expand or leave to.

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by: mmunson @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 at 08:52:13 AM UTC

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please name the businesses fleeing the state (0.00 / 0)

and explain how exactly chevron could move out of california, seeing as the ports, markets, and oilfields are located in california and cannot be moved somewhere else.

it's also not a terribly large employer, all things considered, only #44 out of the top 50, with 5,000 employees. by contrast, the top 10 employers employ between 13,721 (UC berkeley) and 42,951 (32nd street naval station).

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by: wu ming @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 at 04:47:46 AM UTC

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apologies for the double-post. feel free to delete n/t (0.00 / 0)

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by: wu ming @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 at 04:48:13 AM UTC

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Chevron (0.00 / 0)

Wu,

Chevron's World Headquarters are in San Ramon California.  they are a huge employers in Contra Costa County.  The people who work at Bishop Ranch are the top management of the Chevron Corporation...very highly paid people....the very same people who pay the bulk of taxes in California.

Love Chevron or hate them, you are entitled to your own opinion but you are not entitled to your own facts.  If Chevron left California for Houston it would have a huge impact on the State's economy and tax base.

They may be only #44 but the large majority of the employers above them are government entities.  Defense, health, education, etc....all wealth consumers not wealth producers.  

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by: Bob Loblaw @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 at 15:47:56 PM UTC

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Chevron (0.00 / 0)

Wu,

Chevron's World Headquarters are in San Ramon California.  they are a huge employers in Contra Costa County.  The people who work at Bishop Ranch are the top management of the Chevron Corporation...very highly paid people....the very same people who pay the bulk of taxes in California.

Love Chevron or hate them, you are entitled to your own opinion but you are not entitled to your own facts.  If Chevron left California for Houston it would have a huge impact on the State's economy and tax base.

They may be only #44 but the large majority of the employers above them are government entities.  Defense, health, education, etc....all wealth consumers not wealth producers.  

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by: Bob Loblaw @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 at 15:48:51 PM UTC

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Tom Harmon (0.00 / 0)

Yep, I remember when "Moderate Republican" Tom Harmon was elected to the State Senate. His Republican opponent was Diane Harkey, who was considered to be much more conservative.

Harmon is/was probably moderate at heart than Harkey, but once elected the conservative Republicans "got him" and he votes consistently with them.

So the idea of courting so-called moderate Reeps strikes me as a fool's errand.

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by: mst @ Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 20:24:16 PM UTC

Tom Harman is a joke (0.00 / 0)

I thought about supporting him for AG, since he wasnt as nasty as John Eastman, but I am glad he was stopped because I was able to see his true mask when he had the Defend Prop 8 bill after the 2010 election. Would he defend Prop 19 as well? I guess not just like Steve Cooley.

and for Brian, there is a new district that expects to be 38.5D, 38.5R and will actually be quite competitive in the San Gabriel Valley. SEIU could find a Republican who is a public health nurse or public school teacher and go from there.

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by: mmunson @ Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 20:52:01 PM UTC

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Moderate Republicans (5.00 / 3)

I have great respect and sympathy for moderate Republicans like yourself and unlike many Dems I want the Republican Party to continue because I think it keeps the Democratic Party from going off the left-hand deep end.

And it used to be that the existence of the Dems kept the Reeps from going off the right-hand deep end, but apparently that's no longer true.

I know many moderate Republican voters like yourself, but I don't think I can name any in California who hold partisan office. The Republican party savages any who pop their heads up, and co-opts any who manage to get elected.

I think it's sad for California and even sadder for your party. However, my point with Harman is that he is one who was co-opts. The state of Republican politics is such that there can be no such thing as a moderate Republican in partisan office, and I think SEIU is on a fool's errand.  

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by: mst @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 at 16:46:04 PM UTC

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Agreed fools errand, Its their money to waste... n/t (0.00 / 0)

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by: SuperJoker @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 at 22:58:23 PM UTC

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idiots (0.00 / 0)

but par for the course for SEIU.

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by: wu ming @ Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 20:58:06 PM UTC

Money goes both ways (0.00 / 0)

Its popular to think that lobbying money goes one way - buying votes.  But once a special interest group plays both sides it often finds itself building alliances and cutting deals it normally wouldnt to keep its 'investment"

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by: CaliCon @ Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 22:12:17 PM UTC

Unions support Dems and don't have their calls taken (0.00 / 0)

Unions support Dems and don't have their calls taken. Why not do the same with the Reps?  

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by: joel3000 @ Tue Jun 14, 2011 at 01:32:18 AM UTC

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