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California Election Results Thread

by: Robert Cruickshank

Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 20:00:00 PM PDT


Will the right-wing tide break at the Sierra Nevada? One can only hope.

Follow the returns live at the Secretary of State's site. Keep in mind that the bigger counties like Los Angeles tend to report later in the evening, so there may be some races and ballot props that we won't be able to know the outcome of until late.

UPDATE: So all the major networks have called the races for Jerry Brown and Barbara Boxer. But Whitman is refusing to concede, as Pete Wilson is telling her that there are still a lot of ballots to count. I'm hearing that as of 10:35, with 24% in, Brown is up 50-45. So Whitman might just be stalling so that if she does give a concession speech, it's at 2AM when nobody is paying attention and as few Californians as possible will see her epic failure.

UPDATE 2: Whitman finally concedes, announces campaign for governor of Texas in 2014.
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California Election Results Thread | 32 comments
Richard Pan in AD-05 ahead! (0.00 / 0)
Unless there's something I'm reading wrong... (0.00 / 0)
Richard Pan has won the race, per the SoS site.
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SOS website is down... arghhhhhh (0.00 / 0)

I've been going to LA times (latimes.com) (0.00 / 0)
I have not been able to get into the SoS site at all.
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Yes, frustrating... (0.00 / 0)
I hope Bowen does a public/private partnership with Oracle or Google to make a more reliable elections results website for the 2012 election. This might save Bowen and her staff many headaches.

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Serious Question (0.00 / 0)
How much of this is Bowen and her staff, and how much of it is just the pathetically poor state budgeting process?

If the state could afford it, it should be looking to something like Akamai or the like for edge caching for the site -- if it can't negotiate a deal with Akamai to provide it in the public interest or get a reasonable price.

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It's not Bowen's fault (0.00 / 0)
They signed a deal with a vendor who promised reliability that they failed to actually deliver.

You can check out any time you like but you can never leave
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It's absolutely a Bowen issue - but it's no biggee (0.00 / 0)
The Sec'y of State has authority for elections (and election reporting).  The authority comes also with responsibility.  Shifting blame to a contracted vendor may be the case but the responsibility for ensuring the performance sits with Bowen and staff.  What guarantees did the vendor provide, what testing and simulation was run?  This absolutely would have been done in the private sector.  To point fingers at nameless Corporate entities is not accountable government.

That said... it's not an issue of importance.  We have no right to instantaneous results and updates.  So I was unable to get instant gratification from Whitman's demise... the website being down did not change any vote or result.  Frustrating for us political junkies, but not a knock on Bowen.  Embarrassing, yes; significant, no.

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And how do you know that wasn't done? (0.00 / 0)
I've seen a lot of big-company websites go down.  And yet, somehow, it's special when the SoS hires a vendor that screws up.
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this Netroots California thing should be interesting (4.00 / 1)
i wonder if the panels will discuss what seems the plain lesson from tonight's results: this is by no means a liberal state. it's just not a Republican one, in terms of what "Republican" has come to mean in the rest of the country. everything we didn't like about Brown's policy stances is right in line with the proposition results. make everything nice and do it for free - the California voter speaks...
Agreed (4.00 / 1)
Brown is really a wizard at reading the public "tea leaves."

Interesting how the props are breaking. 27 is getting destroyed, which may also be reflective of public sentiment.

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Interesting cross currents (0.00 / 0)
Citizens United is scaring progressives.  But the Whitman collapse after $140M is giving business Republicans some pause.  There is only so  much money they will be willing to throw down a Republican rat hole.
Citizens United (5.00 / 1)
Should scare anybody.  I suspect 100 years from now, the history books will look at that as the Dred Scott decision of the modern era.
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In some other Assembly races of interest (0.00 / 0)
Fox in AD-70 is getting clobbered 35-61. I knew this one would be tough no matter what.

In AD-68, Mansoor is only leading 55-45.

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WOO-HOO! (5.00 / 1)
Prop 23 goes down in flames and 25 passes!

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2 for 9 (0.00 / 0)
The other seven propositions I voted in the minority -- ug.  2/3rds for fees?  Voting against the parks?  
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Whitman: We came up a little short. (5.00 / 1)
Sure, we just need to drop $200 million to get over the top!

Well, in case she decides to move to Texas, I will gladly trade places with her!

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C'mon home (5.00 / 1)
We'll happily exchange you for eMeg. Afterwards maybe Texas will secede and she'll be someone else's problem.
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26 Wins? What a Disaster! (4.00 / 2)
California voters made it that much harder to govern by passing Proposition 26.  I don't see how budgets are going to get resolved, even with the passage of Prop 25.  Constitutional Convention NOW!
This will only change (5.00 / 2)
if the Dems in the legislature have the guts to use the budget like a weapon.  Nothing goes to any Republican district except aid to the poor.  No earmarks for Republicans, no road funding, no law enforcement supplements, no nothing.  No prison gets built in a Republican district again, all state employees get moved out of Republican districts, etc.

If people want Republican representatives, they should get the government that they vote for, and the money should be directed to the places where people don't think services are free.

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It's a trap (0.00 / 0)
The combination of Prop 25 and Prop 26 seems almost like a perfect trap set up by the right wing anti-government movement:  the legislators will no longer have the excuse that it takes 2/3 to pass a budget but will have one less tool for closing the gap. Thus, they'll be more likely to have to vote on 'cuts only' solutions. And of course, the Democrats won't want to do that, so we might still have budget delays and thus a further corrosion of confidence in government.  Or might we see budgets passed by all of the Republicans with a few Democrats peeled off to get to the majority?

Furthermore, it's terrible that a 2/3 requirement can be imposed by less than 2/3 of the voters.  If something is going to be changed from majority to 2/3, it should need a 2/3 vote at the ballot box.  

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But that would mean (4.00 / 1)
That Prop 25 wouldn't have passed, right?
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Not necessarily (2.00 / 1)
It's conceivable that the authors of such an initiative could require the appropriate supermajority for majority increases (e.g., 1/2 -> 2/3) but 1/2 for any majority decreases (e.g., 1/2 for a 2/3 -> 1/2 down-grade).  Or, to be more complicated, write the initiative such that supermajority propositions passed with 1/2 like Prop 13 or yesterday's Prop 26 require only 1/2 to down-grade, while anything passed with a supermajority requirement needs a similar supermajority to be changed (i.e., for future initiatives).  
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Sounds Wonky to me... (0.00 / 0)
 That's likely why its Wonky and I don't know but it seems to me Liberals who are educated and degreed seem to be talking to themselves with large words all the time.

If you had SAID from the start, we should not only pass 25 but 26 as well, then what's what you should have said. Instead of saying How Important it was to pass 25, only to say "Oh wait" we need 26 too.

Do you people even know what your doing? All too often it doesn't sound like it.

Plus how you going to convince my mother that Prop 13 is bad?

Let me know when you can explain that in away a 5 year old can understand.

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Why not just add Sunset provisions (0.00 / 0)
Wouldn't that solve nearly every problem?

If Ballot initiatives automatically need voter renewal after a select amount of time?

Speaking of wonks, can this be enacted via a ballot? Or would we need to change the state constitution?

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Yes, it would need to go to the ballot (0.00 / 0)
   It could be put on the ballot as an initiative constitutional amendment. Or it could be a constitutional amendment put on the ballot by the Legislature (not as likely) but all constitutional amendments must be approved by a simple majority of CA voters.
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I agree (0.00 / 0)
Ever since the Prop 13 fraud passed, I've been saying that any law/proposition that requires any supermajority to alter or to do anything that formerly called for a simple majority needs to pass by the same supermajority pluse one vote.

We also need to outlaw paid signature gatherers, or at least raise considerably the number of signatures required to get a proposition on the ballot.

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Some Observations (4.50 / 2)
Jerry McNerney survived!  Huzzah.

Jenny Oropeza won.  That means a special election.

vote.sos.ca.gov is down again at 7AM.  They need an upgrade/mirrors.

McNerney not the victor yet? (0.00 / 0)
The LA Times election scoreboard shows McNerney down by less than 25 votes with 607 of 613 precincts reporting.  Headed to a recount in that district?
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100% reported (0.00 / 0)
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns...

As you've seen elsewhere, there will be recounts, absentee ballots, etc...

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Cooley vs Harris (0.00 / 0)
All the precincts are in(100%), But according to the TV News, It could be as long as 28 days for the election results to be certified, Of course the loser has the right to call for a recount, But the loser has to pay for that.
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