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Whitman Throws Housekeeper To the Wolves

by: Robert Cruickshank

Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 15:10:58 PM PDT


The latest Field Poll shows that it's all but over for Meg Whitman:

In the closing days of a very long campaign, Democrat Jerry Brown has opened up a ten-point lead - 49% to 39% - over Republican rival Meg Whitman. Another 5% of voters are favoring other candidates and 7% remain undecided.

The current poll finds Brown shoring up his support among women, non-partisans, Latinos and in Los Angeles County. In addition, despite heavy paid media presence of Whitman over the past year, she has been unable to appreciably increase the proportion of voters who view her favorably (42%). The proportion of voters who hold a negative opinion of her has grown to 51%, its highest level recorded.

Reread that second paragraph. Whitman trains among women, Latinos, independents, and in Los Angeles County. Clearly, she has totally failed to break out beyond her right-wing base, which represents a shrinking minority of California, and has no broad appeal across the majority of the electorate.

So how does Whitman respond to this? By making one last desperate bid for the mainstream of California politics?

Hah, no, that would be the smart move, and Whitman is not a smart politician. No, Whitman's super secret plan to win the election is to further alienate Latinos and moderates by throwing her housekeeper overboard and chasing after her right-wing base:

As Republican gubernatorial nominee Meg Whitman tours parts of California that have traditionally been receptive to GOP candidates, she's also appealing directly to conservative TV audiences, hoping to fire up her party's base....

Until now she has declined to comment on whether the former housekeeper should be deported. But Wednesday, in an interview with Greta Van Susteren, Whitman answered the question head on. "Well, the answer is it breaks my heart, but she should be deported because she forged documents and she lied about her immigration status," Whitman said. "And it breaks my heart. Gloria Allred pulled off a political stunt. And you know what? On Nov. 3, no one's going to care about Nicky Diaz. But the law is the law and we live in the rule of law. It's important."

Whitman, who once called her housekeeper "a member of the family," now wants her deported even though she's lived in California for a very long time. Wow.

I don't know what else needs to be said, except that Meg Whitman is not just a bad choice to lead California - she's just a bad person, period. No wonder she has a 51% disapproval rating from Californians (according to today's Field Poll).

Of course, it's not just that Whitman is self-destructing through her right-wing extremism. Jerry Brown has confounded his critics by running an extremely effective, efficient, and clever campaign that has maximized their scarce resources. Brown's TV ads in particular, such as the now-classic "Echo" ad, have been very effective for a low price. Brown's online team has been doing excellent work, giving Brown over 1.1 million Twitter followers as opposed to Whitman's 242,000.

More importantly, Brown understood that he could not win California without reaching out to its new progressive majority, and has been very effective at doing so. He provided a clear contrast to Whitman's immigrant-bashing by making a clear moral argument in defense of immigrant rights - including the rights of the undocumented.

If Jerry Brown wins next Tuesday, it will be because he ran a good campaign that understood California is a diverse place that cannot stand the right wing - while Meg Whitman mistakenly thought she was running for governor of Texas.

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Whitman is toast... but...? (2.00 / 1)
Meg Whitman has shown that she does not understand the nuances of leadership and compassion.  Jerry Brown (who is hardly a Progressive) will inherit our state mess.  

But... I'm interested in what you all suggest.... what should we do about someone who submits fake information and lies about it to the government?  And what is Allred's responsibility since she is the one who "outed" Mrs. Diaz?  As Progressives are there laws we simply ignore?


Man, this is tough (5.00 / 1)
It's difficult to square a desire for equal application of the law with compassion for individuals when dealing with illegal immigration.  It takes a cold heart to know people who are probably not working here legally and still call for mass deportation, but even most progressives I've met think laws that restrict immigration are appropriate in most situations.  There is no country in the world that allows citizens of other nations to walk across a border and start working full-time, and I've never seen a good reason why we should compassionately bend the rules for the people who break them and raise a middle finger to the millions of immigrants waiting patiently at home or not working while the slow wheels of ICE grind away.

As for Ms. Diaz, she got completely and totally screwed by both eMeg* and Allred.  There is no way Allred was acting in the best interests of her client by making her the most famous illegal alien in the US, and I hope Gloria faces bar sanction after her client gets needlessly deported.  At least Ms. Diaz will be able to afford a nice life in Mexico from Allred's malpractice settlement.  

*I think eMegs recent statements are horrible but I'm not sure what she was supposed to do when confronted by Ms Diaz's admission that she had lied on her I-9 and shown fake ID.  Anybody desiring a future in politics would be trapped when facing that situation.


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Once again, here are the questions: (0.00 / 0)
There is no country in the world that allows citizens of other nations to walk across a border and start working full-time, and I've never seen a good reason why we should compassionately bend the rules for the people who break them and raise a middle finger to the millions of immigrants waiting patiently at home or not working while the slow wheels of ICE grind away.

This is false.  The US has a de facto system just like this, because (a) our immigration policy is (and has been) effectively racist, and (b) our economy and our consumers demand cheap services and products and refuse to pay living wages for them.  

Some questions for you:

1)  Are you willing to punish the employers of undocumented immigrants by jailing them or imposing punitive fines on them?

2)  If you're willing to do that, are you willing to make it a punishment that is applied even if the relevant immigrant has papers?  Because otherwise you'll just push the problem back to the individual who gets fake papers, who has come to this country because the native citizens offer them jobs.  One notes as well that eMeg (at least her husband) did know that there was a SSN mismatch, but chose not to investigate at all.

3)  Are you willing to live with even more of the nasty racism we currently have if you impose those restrictions, as anyone with a Spanish accent or who looks vaguely Latino is refused work?

4)  Are you willing to foot the tax bill to deport 10 or 12 million people, most of whom are here working at jobs that we give them and minding their own business, committing fewer crimes per capita than native citizens, and paying into the tax system?  

5)  Once you've done that, how much more beyond the tax bill and the enforcement bill are you willing to pay for roofing, cement work, carpentry, and EVERY single thing having to do with food, from produce to meat to restaurants?  Because the prices on every one of those things is going to go up when the employers don't have nice reliable undocumented labor to whom they can pay low wages without worry about complaints to unions or the fair labor enforcement folks.

It's true that our immigration system is completely screwed up.  But it's screwed up because the people that control it don't really want immigration from the countries from which people want to immigrate and from which people are actually immigrating to provide the services we all want.  And the rest of us all want cheap stuff, and many of us whine about how overpaid the menials are, and what an evil unions are, and how the minimum wage actually harms employers.  So we all pretend that it's about "rule of law" when really, it's mostly about naked racism and cheap stuff.


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Yep (4.00 / 1)
I agree, Plain and simple Racism alright, It used to be at one time the Irish, Instead of Latinos, I mean what's next? Disabled people?

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Overreact much? (2.50 / 2)
It's too bad absolutists like you can engage in constructive conversation without jumping to assuming anybody who disagrees wants a fascist immigration enforcement state.

A single question for you:  Do you believe that nation-states should be allowed to decide which citizens of other nations are allowed to enter, work and stay?


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Of course, nation-states get to decide that. (0.00 / 0)
And the questions for you are all about how your tsk-tsking over the issues translates into actual policy.  Unless you have answers to those questions, you're part of the problem, and your complaints are at best pointless and ad worst supporting the demonization of non-whites that is poisoning our politics.

It's funny that you peg me as an absolutist when all I did was point out the actual causes of, and problems behind the current situation.  You don't have any idea at all what my actual policy views are.


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I should also note that the question (0.00 / 0)
about nation-states is a stupid one, which seems to be designed as a sort of silly gotcha! question.  Nation-states get to decide all sorts of things about their laws.  The relevant questions are whether or not the decisions (de facto, de jure, by action or omission) are smart or stupid, take actual reality into account, or are based on fantasies.

The people who complain the most about undocumented immigrants are generally ignoring the actual facts about that immigration in favor of a lawnorder fantasy, usually buttressed by a nativist sensibility that goes back to the Know-Nothings. (And they were Right! Those Irish and Germans really screwed up the country, didn't they?)  US policy on this issue has become paralyzed into a truly stupid and incoherent position which is fair to almost exactly nobody except people who like cheap stuff.  There are, of course, a number of worse policies that we could pursue, like the various proposed gastarbeiter programs, which would be even less fair to a lot of people, but would still result in cheap stuff.


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Please answer jsw's questions (2.00 / 1)
with answers, if you don't mind, and not sophistry.

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Why the attack? (0.00 / 0)
I posed 2 questions for discussion.  SFGeek gave a thoughtful and honest response.  Then a member of the Editorial Board "scolds" SFGeek and starts with a title of "Once again...".  While fully acknowledging that King Crimson is smarter than I am, I do not see how this response fosters any discussion (which is my objective and, indeed, the stated objective of this site).

The whole racist rant strikes me as troublesome.  In 2009, the USA admitted over 1,100,000 legal immigrants.  Over 400,000 of these came from Central America, South America and non-English-speaking Caribbean.  More were given legal status from Mexico than all of Europe and Canada combined.  

Although jsw did not answer my questions... I shall answer his... remember, this is for discussion, not declaration.

1).  YES.  
2).  If there is reason to believe the "papers" are fakes (typos, rubouts, fed agency questions, etc.), the YES
3).  NO.  I refuse to ever accept racism.... And all racism is "nasty" in my eyes.
4).  NO.  I have no interest in deporting 10 million residents so no, I would not pay for this.  All undocumented workers should be amnestied into a path for permanent residence.
5). How much more?... well, whatever the prevailing wage is I guess.  Are you suggesting that we deserve low labor costs? I don't agree.

Now, will jsw please address my original question?  

I'm trying to keep the discussion civil.  Any takers?  Thanks.  


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Why do you want to talk about that 4 days before an election? (0.00 / 0)
I would have liked to read the comment section this might have been without your pursuing your agenda on that issue.

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Huh? (0.00 / 0)
I'm perfectly happy to leave Governor Brown out of the discussion.  The blog started with a Whitman-Brown comment about the housekeeper. So it was raised (not by me).  I simply thought it an interesting topic (and you appear to agree).  Timing has nothing to do with it... it's not about this race.  

And I have not answered my question (because I don't have an answer) so I can't have an agenda.  But rating my post as Trollish is simply mean Mr. Doane.  Have a good weekend! :)  


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I rated it a "2" (0.00 / 0)
That's not "trollish," it's "eh."  I know you aren't a troll.

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A "good" campaign? (3.00 / 1)
If Jerry Brown wins next Tuesday, it will be because he ran a good campaign

Hmm...  His campaign reminds me of Ali's rope-a-dope.  Not sure it is "good," but it is certainly "wise."


Whitman is hilarious (4.00 / 1)
..."we live in the rule of law and it's important."

What a bunch of crap. If we lived in a nation where the rule of law was important, Bush, Cheney, and probably even Obama would be in prison for war crimes.

The "running for governor of Texas." is a great line.


Yep (4.00 / 1)
Yes what you say is true, they nation leaders haven fallen a long way into the darkness taking the nation with it.

Yes Great Line


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