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What We Have Built: A System By, For, and Of the Lobbyists

by: Brian Leubitz

Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 09:42:39 AM PDT


Jim Sanders has some interesting thoughts, many of which have passed between my two ears over the last couple of weeks with the closing of the legislative sessions. Specifically, there have been a few instances of crass political maneuvering outweighing policy.  Not that it is anything new, nor is the impact of lobbyists anything innovative. But it seems, as the legislature has completely lost its institutional knowledge, the power of the almighty lobbyist dollar has become magnified. And Sanders has some specific examples, take for example the interesting case of the plastic bag measure, AB 1998.

Plastic bags have been "banned" from major San Francisco groceries for several years now.  The sky has not fallen, and prices have not skyrocketed. You see more reusable bags these days (which is an incontrovertible good), and a bunch more paper (which is a bit of a wash).  But, what is also clear is that the plastic bags are killing the San Francisco Bay and other California waterways.  Millions are floating around the bay, and drastic action is necessary, as these things just don't break down over any short-term horizon.

But, you know, as Dustin Hoffman learned in The Graduate: "plastics!"

Supporters of the plastic-bag ban struggled to overcome an army of lobbyists - including former Assembly Speaker Fabian Núñez - and a tsunami of "misleading ads," said Dan Jacobson, of Environment California.

"Money was no object," he said of opponents, who also unleashed a flurry of political donations.

"If the American Chemistry Council wasn't in the middle of the debate, this would have been a no-brainer bill getting through the Legislature and to the governor's desk," said Assemblywoman Julia Brownley, a Santa Monica Democrat who proposed the ban.

But Tim Shestek, of the chemistry council, said accusations of undue influence unfairly ignore that the coalition of AB 1998 supporters was high-powered as well, including grocers, labor groups, environmentalists and legislative leaders. (SacBee)

Was it a fair fight, maybe, maybe not, but the greater issue is that the paid corporate interests are now drowning out the voices of the people. Even if legislators make a concerted effort to talk to constituents, they get flooded with industry spurred communication.

There are many reasons for these issues, and some have no simple cure.  BUt surely, some sort of fix that allows our legislators to gain the upper hand through experience in their position before they are on to the next gig would be a reasonable starting point.

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Another unpredicted trend (0.00 / 0)
is that it's now okay to go out of the store without any bags at all. You can just load it into your car from the cart if you like, and everyone's cool with that.

It's nice. And amazing to see the change happen so quickly.

Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!


It's been a rapid change (0.00 / 0)
When I first started taking my own bags to the store in 2007, checkers and baggers at the bigger stores here in Monterey - places like Nob Hill and Safeway - didn't quite know what to make of it. Now it's second-nature, and the stores themselves offer bags for sale right at the checkout stand.

Trader Joe's has always been good about this (or at least they have been since 2007 when I started paying attention).

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Of some of the Major Chains (0.00 / 0)
Vons sells their Bags for $1.99 each and Stater Brothers sells their bags for $0.99 each, In this area whenever I went shopping I never saw anyone buying the bags, Even when I bought a few and I have 6 bags from Stater Brothers now and their drip dry only, Not tumble dry and I forget them everytime I go to the Market, So I've wasted $6.42 on these bags, That money could have gone to get a shallow wet cat food bowl for My cat Grace(See picture below), Which now waits for October 1st, 2010 to get here. The Large Market chains were behind the push to outlaw plastic bags, Why? Cost, As they were spending about $7,000 to $8,000 a month on bags that made them no money, The bags they'd like You and Me to Buy would make them an unknown profit, No one said how much money the Large Chains stood to make on TV. Me I like the ban, But It doesn't help Me any as It's currently written and It means divert some of My limited income($845 a month) away from other vital areas, Like supply acquisition or repairs. I made My Republican elected representatives aware of this of course and No I'm not a Republican, I used to be(the far right controls the party now, that wasn't the party of when I grew up), But then I've been an Independent too, I'm currently a Democrat, Just like I was in 1978.



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I started using ... (0.00 / 0)
Fabric bags when I was in France last year.  I had to take a bus to/from the supermarket and I found that I could get by with two bags for several days' groceries and beverages (water and soda come in 1.5 liter containers, I could easily fit two at the bottom of each bag).

I have 4 bags from Albertson's now ($1 each) and I had the same problem about forgetting to bring them along, but I have gotten into the habit of putting them on top of my briefcase after I empty them, so I take them out to the car in the morning and stuff them in the trunk.

Never thought about washing them, but I don't see why they can't be tumble dried.  I'll have to stop by a Stater Bros to see what is so special about them.

By the way, do you REALLY think that the cost of those bags is not factred into the cost of everything in the store?


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Stater Brother Markets Bags (0.00 / 0)
Are not cloth, As they look like their made of plastic or as It says on the label, their made of Polypropylene, the bag says: Do Not use Bleach, So I bought essentially Plastic Bags made in China.

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Plastic Bags (0.00 / 0)
As I understand it, many of these bags are made from recycled plastic bottles.  This may be the case here.

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Trader Joe's friendly for no bags? (0.00 / 0)
I'm not sure how much I agree with the statement that trader joes has always been good about it, I've seen people bring in plastic bags from other stores and get their incentive. While when I go in and say I will just carry the items in my hands I can't get entered in their contests if I ask. (Sorry, I've been irked by this many times.)

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Yep (0.00 / 0)
Some kind of serious campaign finance reform - such as public financing - would be the obvious starting place.

So too would be reform of the Legislature itself. Triple the size, go to a unicameral system - that would help connect legislators more closely to voters.

It's absurd that a fucking bag ban couldn't get out of this legislature, or an updated RPS, or getting BPA out of children's plastics.

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