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Prop 19 Battle Continues At CDP E-Board

by: Robert Cruickshank

Sun Jul 18, 2010 at 07:00:00 AM PDT


Yesterday the California Democratic Party Resolutions Committee took up the question of November ballot initiative endorsements. After some debate, the committee narrowly rejected Tom Ammiano's proposal to endorse Prop 19, and then unanimously approved the original plan to remain neutral on that initiative.

The speakers in support of Prop 19 - Ammiano and Alice Huffman of the California NAACP - made powerful arguments in support of the measure. Ammiano cited the more than 20,000 signatures we at the Courage Campaign (where I work as Public Policy Director) gathered in support of the initiative, the stack of which you can see at right, alongside the strong case for Prop 19 on the merits - to provide prison reform, help fix the budget, and to admit that our policy of prohibition has failed.

Huffman's case was even more powerful. Rejecting claims that Democrats should be skittish of Prop 19 out of concern for their candidates on the November ballot, she called on delegates to "show courage" and endorse Prop 19 for the sake of ending the devastating war on drugs that has hit young African Americans and Latinos so hard, and seek a more sensible and rational regulatory policy of cannabis.

However, the more skittish view prevailed on the committee. In spite of the evidence showing that California Democratic voters support Prop 19 and their own party chair's view that Prop 19 will boost turnout for Democrats, these folks worried that Democrats running in purplish or red areas would be hurt if the party endorsed Prop 19, even though some candidates in those kinds of districts already have gone on record in support of Prop 19.

I'm sympathetic to that view, but I think it also misreads the 2010 election. This is a turnout election, not a persuasion election. Democrats win by driving our people to the polls, plain and simple. Prop 19 will bring Democratic-friendly voters to the polls. If the CDP were to be on record in support of Prop 19, those voters might also be willing to cast their vote for Democratic candidates. If the party is neutral, then that might not occur at the levels we'd like.

Today the entire E-Board will take up the endorsement. It will require 60% to endorse. My feeling is the vote will be close. There's no chance the CDP will oppose Prop 19, so the question is whether the party will endorse it or remain neutral. We'll know by noon.

Prop 19 wasn't the only ballot initiative endorsement that generated strong debate. Surprisingly (to me, at least) Prop 22, which would put a permanent end to state raids on local government funding, was very hotly contested. The Resolutions Committee ultimately voted to oppose Prop 22.

Prop 22 supporters argue that it's unfair to make local governments suffer because of the state's budget woes, hurting police, fire, and other vital services provided by local government. Many unions that represent workers in local government strongly support Prop 22. Others argue that the raids on local government funding play a major role in the public's negative views of the legislature, fuels anti-union sentiment (including attacks on pensions) and undermines the progressive case for government instead of making it clear the problem lies with the 2/3rds rule in Sacramento.

On the other hand, Prop 22 opponents, led by the CTA, CNA, and the California Professional Firefighters, argue that this would tie the hands of the legislature and lead to deeper cuts to public schools and other state-funded priorities. They expressed sympathy for the woes of local governments, but did not want to conduct further ballot-box budgeting. This view won out at the Resolutions Committee, despite an effort by some to have the party be neutral on what could be a very divisive proposition.

I've not seen any polling on Prop 22 yet, but it would seem likely to pass by a healthy margin this November. In 2004, Prop 1A passed with 83% voting yes, a proposition that strictly limited raids on local government funding, requiring 2/3 of the legislature to support it and requiring funds to be repaid to localities within 3 years.

CTA and others are likely to spend some money against Prop 22, so that will create a different dynamic around this proposition than Prop 1A. Still, it will be interesting to see which argument sways voters.

The rest of the debate was fairly straightforward. The party voted to oppose Prop 20 (extend Prop 11 redistricting commission mandate to include Congressional districts) and support Prop 27, which would abolish the commission and return all redistricting power to the legislature. Fred Keeley, who was screwed by the 2002 redistricting, spoke for Prop 20 and against 27, but his arguments were rejected in favor of Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren's call to oppose Prop 20 and support Prop 27, pointing out that the Prop 11 commission is totally unrepresentative of California (it's mostly affluent white men).

Other endorsements taken up by the Resolutions Committee and likely to stand at today's floor session: Yes on 21, No on 23, Yes on 24, Yes on 25, No on 26.

UPDATE by Robert: I moved to endorse Prop 19 and spoke in support of it. It needed 60% to pass, but it failed with 85 in support and 101 opposed. The E-Board then approved the party being neutral on a voice vote. This means that local county committees can go ahead and make their own decisions.

Robert Cruickshank :: Prop 19 Battle Continues At CDP E-Board
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The general session should be interesting. (5.00 / 1)
Unfortunately, I was in another committee meeting for the one that I sit on, so I was unable to attend.  However, there were a few tweets reporting the news from Dante and Robert.

As I used to sit on the committee, I'll briefly explain how the process works.  The committee meeting is entirely open to the public, with the exception of a brief pre-meeting to go over the process of the actual meeting.  The co-chairs do review all of the resolutions ahead of time to see if there are any defects or other issues, but that's not really an issue for the props.  The meetings themselves tend to go quite long, but as the props go first, people usually know when to show up.

Yesterday, the committee, of course, looked at the entire slate of ballot props, with the two controversial ones being Prop 22, a measure that would set off a big chunk of money for local governments and redevelopment agencies, and Prop 19, the marijuana decriminilization measure.  As I wasn't there, I will suggest you take a look at the above twitter feeds.  

The resolutions committee heard from both sides of the campaign, and ultimately went "NO" on prop 22.  Now, where it goes from here.  In a few hours during the general session, the resolutions committee will give their report.  The consent calendar will feature all of the endorsements that Robert listed in his post, and then any member of the e-board can pull specific measures.  19 and 22 will certainly be pulled, but you never know if there will be somebody else to pull one of the others.

Check my twitter feed or Dante and Robert for more updates.  The meeting could tell us more about who exactly the CDP is, and how it thinks.

I think?


Props 19 and 22 (0.00 / 0)
Thank you for updates from e-Board.

I appreciate your comment that the November election is a "turnout" election. Turnout in suburban Sacramento, where I live, has historically been low for dems, primarily b/c dem party power machine is city-of-sacramento-centric. Example: in Arden Arcade there are something like 4500 voting-age african-americans. For sake of discussion, say 1500 likely voters. Or even 1000. Guess how many are registered dem: about 350 and of those 102 vote. Huh? Perhaps b/c Sac dems  GOTV effort for Obama blew off precincts in Natomas and Arden Arcade? We wind up with repub ideologues like Roger Niello, Dave Cox, Susan Peters, and now we get failed county supe Roger Dickinson for Assy. Hopefully new thinking @ Sac dem central committee can turn this around. Turnout can make a huge difference.

Prop 19 is obvious revenue-enhancer for state budget and can re-tool law enforcement expenditures towards a more productive direction. Yes on 19 will attract youth and indies and it crosses the aisle. Remember the old saying: "A Libertarian is a Republican with a bong."

Prop 22. Ridiculous for dems to shy away from protecting local govt coffers. Legislature and Governor need a very strong signal that it's not OK to pick local govt pockets. CTA and school districts already benefit from having half of state budget go to education plus ERAF already locks in theft of city, county and special district money to pay for schools. Further, city, county and special district ability to raise bond money is constrained @ 2/3 rqmt, whereas school districts only have to meet 55% and state wins with simple majority. You are right in remembering the 83% yes vote for Prop 1A. State budget needs to face the music and raise revenues, with removal of 2/3 requirement being key. Solution is NOT to leave local govts vulnerable. Anti-Prop 22 is tantamount to co-dependency.

 


If a Libertarian is... (0.00 / 0)
   a Republican with a bong, is a Green a Democrat with a bong?   Just wondering...

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No (0.00 / 0)
A Democrat with a bong is a Democrat, just not one who's going to get elected to much.

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Vote wasn't close (0.00 / 0)
The powers that be sure do love making a mockery of those who suggest working from within the CDP as a vehicle to help Democrats.

Twitter: @BobBrigham

How would you know? (0.00 / 0)
There were a lot of conflicted folks there. Grassroots leaders who have nothing to do with the so-called "powers that be" spoke against the Yes position. But it's not your narrative, so those grassroots folks are now powers that be I suppose. Right?

Furthermore...yes, it was close. That room was fairly evenly split. A few folks that I know would have been pro-19 didn't show up on Sunday. It isn't so much about the "fix being in" as a failure to organize. Proxies were left on the table that could have turned the tide.

I think?


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76% of what was needed isn't, "close" (0.00 / 0)
Grassroots leaders who spoke against endorsement were just stupid, they flunked understanding the dynamics of November. You can mock people for being idiots, but it's tougher to blame then for that. Which is why the worst scorn should be reserved for those who do understand politics in this cycle but valued their cowardice more than winning.

The CDP lacks legitimacy.

Twitter: @BobBrigham


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CDP cares only about big government, not liberty (0.00 / 0)
If you care about freedom, CDP is the wrong party for you.

CDP cares only about lining the featherbeds of state employees.


let Me guess (0.00 / 0)
the Free market will regulate Itself, Government and taxes  are bad and so therefore aren't needed?

Good Luck on that, keep dreaming(so not), Liber take over? It ain't going to happen, No way Jose. No going back, Only forward, Buck up and stop whining, People are just over extended and that's their own fault...

Not Governments fault.

Some believe that tax cuts make jobs, Historically they haven't done that, Money saved just went into a bank account somewhere. Maybe You ought to read this:

Tax Cuts Widen Budget Gaps

What did the DOF's "dynamic" analyses find? "No evidence ... that tax rate reductions ... can in general 'pay for themselves,' as some parties in the past have claimed," according to a summary of the results by the Legislative Analyst's Office. For example, a $1 billion "static" cut in corporate income taxes - a very large tax cut, equivalent to a 20 percent reduction at the time of the analysis - would result in an $816 million "dynamic" revenue loss. In other words, the state would lose 82 cents for each dollar of "static" reduction in corporate income taxes, even after factoring in any economic gains that the tax cut might produce. So much for hopes of a free lunch.


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Thank you Robert (5.00 / 1)
for your vote. I'm glad you represent me on the e-board.  Chris Finnie

Thanks! (8.00 / 1)
I hope you'll still be glad I represent you when I run for re-election in January!

You can check out any time you like but you can never leave

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Thanks for fighting the good fight, Robert (0.00 / 0)
Do you expect to see fights at the county level now, or is there no appetite for it?

Yes (8.00 / 1)
There will be fights at the county level, absolutely.

Monterey County's Democratic Central Committee (where I'm the vice-chair) approved a resolution in support of Prop 19 in late May. That's not a formal endorsement, since we were bound by whatever the CDP decided, but since they went neutral, we'll likely revisit it in August.

The big battles will be in the more populous counties - SF, Alameda, Santa Clara, LA, OC, SD, etc. Places like Monterey and Santa Cruz Counties should be less contentious.

You can check out any time you like but you can never leave


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I hope that people will be sharing their experiences and plans (0.00 / 0)
as to how to approach county parties, then, as our collective success depends on individuals successes.  Your situation in Monterey is a lot different from what we have here in OC, of course, but we want to win as many endorsements as we can.  That will take some cooperation and consultation.

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There won't be a battle in Alameda (8.00 / 1)
The resolution in support passed by about 50 to 1.

Guess I still have San Francisco hippie values, although I'm an engineer

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Interesting (0.00 / 0)
From this New York Times article, I might have suspected a closer fight.

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