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We Can Be Better than Spain: Building a Green Economy

by: Brian Leubitz

Thu Jul 15, 2010 at 15:00:00 PM PDT


It's a happy day in Spain today.  Sure, the whole World Cup was kind of a big deal.  But there's something else:  Spain has now leapfrogged the United States as the biggest producer of solar power.

Spain has opened the world's largest solar power station, meaning that it overtakes the US as the biggest solar generator in the world. The nation's total solar power production is now equivalent to the output of a nuclear power station.

Spain is a world leader in renewable energies and has long been a producer of hydro-electricity (only China and the US have built more dams). It also has a highly developed wind power sector which, like solar power, has received generous government subsidies. (GuardianUK)

I'll save you all the technical details that got me (as a huge nerd) interested in the story, but instead look at the economic and societal impacts.  In the end, rankings really don't have much of a real meaning. I guess that it's good for the Spanish national psyche, which after the 20% unemployment and the "socialist" government's ill-advised austerity program could use a boost.  But, the greater issue is what is Spain doing better than us.  And here in California, we should be kicking Spain's butt all on our own.

After all, we have all the inherent advantages (and many more) that Spain has.  The California economy is bigger than that of Spain.  The Spanish economy is roughly 1.46 trillion, ours is roughly 1.85 trillion. Spain has plenty of sun, we have plenty of sun.  Spain has a population that is concerned with the environment, as does California. (Though we'll get some hard numbers with the Prop 23 question of AB32 repeal.)

So why is Spain now producing a nuclear power station's worth while we're still diterhing around the margins?  Well, there's the obvious issue of our grid.  The upgrading of the grid was supposed to be one of the big projects emerging from the Recovery Act, and that's happening as we speak. BUt, unfortunately, that's still going to take a while.  The funding was cut down from the original bill, and we will still need plenty of time to really be able to manage the grid as well as we hope to in the future.  

We'll also need to think about combining energy storage capacity with the new green energy.  You can start with flywheels and that sort of thing, but the big hope on that front is a grid that can tap into a whole network of batteries parked in the garage of every house. Like...say a fleet of electric cars that can be charged and discharged in times of high or low loads.

But the biggest failure on our part is that we just haven't aimed high enough. We've been content to play around the edges, and our power companies haven't vigorously pursued green power.  This is one of the reasons that the defeat of Prop 16 was so critical. Had PG&E won that measure, they would have been able to shut down competition and controlled all of the purchasing of power.  Instead, we can work through our elected representatives to bring more green power.

In the end, you don't get to be the world's leader by spouting platitudes. It's nice to hear the Governor talk about green power, and for Meg Whitman to tut-tut the concept. But California needs a leader that will affirmatively drag our economy into the new green economy.  Years ago, they used to call Jerry Brown Governor Moonbeam.

Well, today, we need Governor Sun Ray or Wind Gust.  How's about it Jerry?

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Spain is a model (0.00 / 0)
They've got high speed rail, same-sex marriage, and lots of solar and wind power.

Sure, they've also got high unemployment, owing largely to their own housing bubble. But with HSR, renewable energy, and progressive social policies, they are poised to bounce back very strongly when recovery finally takes place.

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Just to be clear (0.00 / 0)
I wasn't trying to insult Spain. I was trying (if unartfully) say that we can do what Spain has does, but better.

As to Spain, I think they have done well in preparing themselves to recover. However, their recent austerity measures could net them a double dip recession.

I think?


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Yep (0.00 / 0)
Zapatero should have known better than to embrace the austerity nonsense. He resisted it for quite a while. As I recall, the votes to pass the measures came from the conservative Catalan nationalist party, perhaps hoping to crash the Spanish economy in order to fuel their own demands for greater autonomy. I believe the Catalan nationalist left opposed austerity, rightly so.

Still, with the other pieces Spain has been putting into place, they are in a good position to recover, eventually.

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Zapatero (0.00 / 0)
Keep in mind that Zapatero, and other Euro Zone leaders, are somewhat under the thumb of the Germans and their extremist views on fiscal austerity.  Spain, Greece, Portugal, Italy, and Ireland lack the macroeconomic tools to adjust their currencies to stimulate local economies.  Even individual US states are better off, as there is greater ability for workers to migrate between states to find appropriate work.  

Zapatero's embrace may just be an admission of the realities he is facing with the demands from the Bundesbanks.


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Solar.... (0.00 / 0)
 They really need to make solar more affordable not just for the lowest common denominator but the middle class or should I say the "struggling class".

You want massive solar adoption, bring it down to the price of a good used car for installation and hardware and you'll have some many people doing it, they could't train and hire people fast enough which might hurt quality control which is a standard American practice these days.

But anyway, energy auditors and massive solar installation and as a state we can bypass Spain NO PROBLEM. Isn't our total population higher than Spain?


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lower, actually (0.00 / 0)
spain = 46 million
california - 37 million

the best way to ramp up solar IMO is to commit all public/school buildings to put solar panels on top. the steady market that provides should help us in stimulating economies of scale for solar.

it's also important to remember that we need both rooftop solar and larger scale thermal solar power plants. lots of distributed solutions add up to a comprehensive one.  


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Vehicle batteries? (0.00 / 0)
Put me down for using vehicle batteries for grid storage won't work.

There are a couple of problems, first of all that draining the batteries in people's cars during peak power utilization (midafternoon) is going to annoy the crap out of the drivers when they can't get in their cars to drive home from work because the batteries are flat.

Second, charge cycles aren't free. Every time you drain those battery packs you will shorten their lifetime. Again, this will annoy the drivers quite a bit.

Third, the scaling problem. Parasitic losses and locality problems are going to eat up anything you might gain out of automotive distributed storage.

Vanadium-redox flow batteries? Yes, that will work. In fact it already does.


Let's Do It (0.00 / 0)
 Electric cars are so far down the list of concerns where they belong there is no study, poll or anything else that supports massive adoption. The people that have pre-ordered the Leaf likely have more than one car, they are not concerned about the limited range of the thing.

Charging stations should be rolled out, but I agree they shouldn't be looking forward to drawing power from parked electric cars to help keep supply up on the grid.

I would agree with making it mandatory for public schools to convert to solar power. But they should also fund large switchover for home owners. People are still concerned and rightly so about the cost. The cost is what makes people get less than they need and end up not with the savings they thought because of it.

Like I said make a 3-5kw grid-tie system under $10,000 for parts and installation and under $7,000 for DYI, along with a specialized public bank to fund loans to get these done for people that don't have the cash to do it. I've seen some good models, this can be done and we should allow full ownership of the system, instead of some of these lease schemes I have seen lately.

I want to put panels on my parents house to protect them from the coming increases in energy since they are on fixed incomes. But you have to make it affordable, this is what Germany did, its been so successful they are backing down the percentage of the rebates.
 


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I live in a Mobile Home (0.00 / 0)
I live in a Mobile Home, I'd need a roof over conversion and then the panels, mounting and the inverter with cables and such, But so far places like Solar City said about installing systems on Mobile Homes, No to Mobile Homes at this time, But maybe later. In any case I'd have to finance It and cause of My very low income, I'd not qualify, It would simpler to redo My roof and then cover most of My peaked roof with photovoltaic cells for free as the power company(SCE) could pay for It like they do for others with My income level, Of course I'm black balled(Listed) until 2015 from any help by the Community Action Partnership of San Bernardino County, 1-800-635-4618(Cause I was living in a Rental as a Tenant(Which the Manager said I was), Now from late 2006 I've been a Resident) and not long after they'd done their little bit of work, I ran into an inheritance and was able to buy a Mobile Home of My own to move into, But I could not do much work on It, It's 84F in here and 109F outside. They could help, As they have the money to do so, But won't as they insist that they worked on a Mobile Home that I owned which is a big fat Lie(I can't sue as I do not have the money to do so), the one I rented as a Tenant is owned by the Park, I own the one I bought in late 2006 outright and with clear title, The one they worked on is 12' wide, Mine is 14' wide, Community Action Partnership of San Bernardino County is Nuts...

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