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Once Again: California Is Not Greece

by: Robert Cruickshank

Wed May 12, 2010 at 11:54:29 AM PDT


As California's budget deficit returns to the front pages, and with the financial crisis in Greece already getting global attention, it was only a matter of time before people started to make the careless "California is America's Greece!" connection. When one of those people is Jay Leno, you know the idea is getting traction - and is complete BS:

California's budget woes were the butt of yet another joke last night.

This one comes from Jay Leno's opening monologue. The late-night host compares Greece's financial crisis to the situation in the Golden State:

"See Greece is a relatively small country, it would be like a state over here. But it overspends, it over borrows, it promises expensive pension plans, it over taxes, it over regulates business. So the state it would be would be California."

Dan Walters examines the comparison and, though noting that California's current debt is FAR lower than Greece's a fraction of GDP, says California is on track to become another Greece:

California's official debt, mostly bonds, is not particularly high. State and local governments might owe something north of $100 billion in bond debt, around 5 or 6 percent of the state's economy.

When unofficial debt is factored into the equation, however, the number climbs rapidly. That would include billions owed to the federal government for unemployment insurance loans, commitments of future spending on schools to make up for recent spending cuts and, most of all, the unfunded liabilities for public employee pensions and retiree health care.

But that future debt is paid out over a LONG period of time. It's not due immediately. Some of the money owed to schools and local governments IS owed very soon - 2012 or 2013, depending on the creditor - but that sum still won't push California's deficit significantly higher.

More importantly, that money can be repaid through higher taxes. California annually leaves tens of billions of dollars on the table in lost revenues that we can get from the rich and large corporations. Doing so would not only avoid damaging our economic recovery, but would in fact fuel economic recovery by enabling more sustainable economic growth, powered by small businesses and a broader economic stability, rather than ever-greater dependence on a few large companies and wealthy folks to feel like giving jobs to the rest of us schlubs.

California also has resources Greece simply doesn't have, besides the fact that our economy is much, much larger than theirs. California is not only part of a single currency, but has financial and monetary institutions to match that single currency (that's what the US Constitution was all about - facing a situation in 1787 very similar to what the eurozone faces now, the US chose greater integration). The US government has the power to backstop California debt, and although the Obama Administration has been reluctant to use such power, they have been willing to help send financial aid to Sacramento and appear willing to do it again.

Ultimately the "California is Greece" comparison obscures the deeper problems we face. California isn't facing a debt problem and we're not facing a spending problem. Austerity has been tried for 3 years here in California and has merely deepened our recession and in turn worsened our budget deficit. It's time we tried something else - like getting our money back from the rich through progressive taxation.

Dan Walters and Arnold Schwarzenegger agree on keeping the tax option off the table, even though it's the most fiscally responsible solution we have. Let's hope Californians demand that option be not only taken seriously, but actually employed, in order to avoid the economic catastrophe that further austerity would cause.

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Agreed (0.00 / 0)
Put the Tax option for the Rich back on the table and reverse the two corporate tax reductions(Corporate Welfare) that Fuhrer Arnold saddled US all with. Plus close the loophole on Prop 13 from 1978 so that corporations property(buildings or land) is reassessed upon the sale of said holdings like buildings and/or land as It is for residential property owners regardless of whomever owns said property. Plus start making the oil companies pay the people of the state of california pay an oil severance tax or a royalty tax on the oil and/or natural gas extracted from the ground within the state of california and/or from offshore and make sure It is not passed on to the people of California by making the tax come from their raw and oily profits.

Tax the Rich (0.00 / 0)
I'm so totally on board with this.  But, what defines rich?  I work in Del Mar and debate repubs regularly on this.  I'm wondering how to get past the look of horror on their face when I suggest that they may need to pony up a bit more.  I really don't think that these people are that well off, just comfortable, selfish and brainwashed to be horrified that the taxman will come and steal the pennies from their eyes.

maybe (0.00 / 0)
$500,000.00 a Year? I don't know either, I just know people like Fuhrer Arnold don't pay enough as It is. He thankfully couldn't get elected Dog Catcher in this state, Arnold Don't like the door hit You on the way out after November, You've worn out Your welcome in this state as far as I'm concerned.

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california is like greece in some ways (0.00 / 0)
 both entities are being shock doctrined by a combination of bond vultures, media FUD, and politicians trying to use the crisis to cram down pensions, salaries and social services and lock in an expensive transfer of wealth from the bottom to the top.

it's just the damn enron con job over and over again.


We (0.00 / 0)
Just lack adequate revenue and the backbone to take It, From those Who can afford It as part of the cost of living in the state of California.

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